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Why does it feel that the evil sides globally are winning. Even evil people are winning. Why?

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (15 children)

It's a global far right power grab fueled by money from Russia using weaponized disinformation. It's been going on for decades at a smaller scale before Facebook, etc, even existed. It's also fueled by conservative dark money groups funded by conservative billionaires. You should read the book Dark Money, I highly recommend it.

Even the antivax stuff is from Russia and it way predates the big platforms. It was started in the crunchy mom communities on Livejournal, where they first experimented with seeing if westerners would glom on to weird mommy trends like not using shampoo, nursing your kids to ridiculous ages, "unassisted birth", which is where people deliver babies without any medical care at all, "unschooling", etc. That took off in a big way and then they began with the antivax stuff, and used Livejournal as a tool of Russian government propaganda.

Then they started funding white supremacist groups, and the groups like the yellow vests, Moms for Liberty, etc. Really recommend learning about dark money and Russian weaponized disinformation.

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[–] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

It's very simple: human emotion. When something upsets the status quo, people get scared, angry and desperate. They turn to whatever solution they think will fix things.

In the case of nations, that becomes right-wing politics. Many factors in the recent past have caused distress and fear. People are afraid of losing what they have, they don't like the uncertainty. They lack the education and critical-thinking skills to choose the best course of action, instead they choose the most reassuring course of action.

In 1930s Germany, support for extremist political parties (not just the NSDAP) surged due to the desperate times they were experiencing. Germany underwent a period of hyperinflation, which was followed shortly after by the stock market crash of 1929. They were already in poor shape, both economically and emotionally, due to the punishments meted out by the Versailles treaty.

Things became very bad for the Germans, and they turned to the looneys who offered a solution. A similar scenario is playing out in several countries around the world, especially the US. COVID really upset a lot of people, none more so than the overly emotional and uneducated. They felt attacked and vulnerable, and they were already deluded by years of misinformation. They turn to politicians like Trump, because he appeals directly to their emotions. He makes them feel safe, largely by scapegoating groups who aren't actually a threat (sound familiar?).

People don't check if what they're hearing is true, they care most about having their fears assuaged. This is why we've seen a resurgence of right-wing extremism globally.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Because capitalism. Capitalism is basically a philosophy that postulates that people are greedy and selfish, so it makes a society based on greediness and selfishness. It's a self-realizing prophecy if you ask me.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Evil people control almost all sources of information

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Because it is

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Evil was winning, we're watching the collapse of the evil empire from within.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does it feel like evil is winning globally?

Propaganda works.

We are now innundated with it. And the answer is not "anti-propaganda" although sometimes that helps a little.

The answer is everyone needs to learn how media works; How words and images and sounds form the world.

And to do that requires the help of media corporations.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

I theorize that it has a lot to do with rich people. There's more wealth inequality than ever before, or at least (because I'm not well versed in history) if billionaires are maybe roughly equivalent to some kings of yore, that those kings couldn't have the same widespread impact in old times because of modern mass communication. Billionaires skew overwhelmingly amoral, so this increased global reach is allowing them to shape and skew things in amoral directions, which includes propping up power hungry leaders to do their bidding. This is especially true because the communication channels are controlled by other wealthy people who benefit from the system, so they have a vested interest in seeing that the algorithms continue to support the owner class.

Even savvy leaders like Putin can't do it alone and alienate the oligarchs (see this CGP Grey video on "rules for rulers" as to why), but beyond that it's easy to see why weak idiots like trump are simple enough to puppet with money and flattery.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think when people feel like things are going downward (quality of life, economy, local security, international security, ecological crisis etc.), tend to regress towards a conservative reflex. They want to protect what they have, by extension, they don't want things to change out of fear of losing what they have, or they attribute the loss of what they had to unrelated change (I lost my job because of immigration).
I think it requires good quality education and information to go past this conservative reflex and understand that accepting some constrains (regulations, taxes) may make society better for everyone.
It also means that manipulating education and information can prevent that and encourage people to take the natural conservative slope. I think "evil" people have found a powerful tool to do that with the mass adoption of social media that they can buy and manipulate.

I see two big solutions, either falling so low that humanism bounces back out of terror of what happened like after WW2. Or managing to implement systems that will prevent nefarious manipulation of information and instead promote humanism.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because history is cyclical, and at all times some forces are on the losing side of it. Back in the days when the left was more powerful, the right complained about winning evil. Now it's the other way around.

Note: this is not a "both sides" argument, I am left.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Note: this is not a "both sides" argument, I am left.

I really wish people had the critical thinking on the internet to understand this point. The other side does see themselves how we see ourselves and acknowledging that doesn’t mean you support their views.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

Maybe you have this filing because live is anadrome of evil.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This is a people/societal issue. People's lack of willingness in investing in other people doing well.

[–] aordogvan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Surprised to read so many answers talking about capitalism, social media and wealth concentration. But no one mentioned that we're at an unprecedented point in history of mankind. Ecological collapse, the lightening fast rise of AI. No example of past historical processes can be very useful in this very unique context.

And don't forget that with AI and, coming fast, robots, humans will not be needed for labor anymore. Most of you might feel this is rubbish about something you think is science fiction. I suggest you think again.

Think again and you will quickly realize that the future is not rosy for 99.5% of us.

[–] EcoByte@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Nah, the others are right

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

There's a season for everything, even for evil, but it won't last forever.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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