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Donald Trump gave a rambling two-hour speech at a right-wing conference where he branded the U.S. a "third-world hellhole" under President Biden's leadership. He falsely claimed the 2020 election was rigged and investigations against him are an attempt to rig the 2024 election. He threatened to revoke funding from universities and pledged to revive the Muslim ban, mass deportations, and ending birthright citizenship. Several speakers at the conference made inflammatory claims about transgender people, calling transition healthcare "Mengele-like experimentation" and referring to trans people as "freaks" and "perverts.

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[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Former Fox News personality Megyn Kelly said she no longer has empathy for people experiencing gender dysphoria. “There should be a healthy measure of ridicule,” she told Kirk during a lengthy discussion about trans people and the erasure of trans rights, which Kirk said is a “winner politically for Republicans.”

These people are fucking ghouls.

[–] Cybrpwca@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a few more steps and she'll be saying "are these trans people even people anyway?"

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Publicly. They already say it in private.

[–] smellythief@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In private I bet most of these people don't talk about it at all. They probably don't actually have strong opinions on the subject one way or the other. They just use the hate to inflame their tool followers to keep themselves in their positions of wealth.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't assume that public figures spewing hate don't actually believe what they're saying. Here in Finland we've had a bit of a neo-Nazi problem with our new government (literally. At least one newly minted minister had to resign due to links to actual neo-Nazism, and he's not the only one with links) and it's quite clear that all the ones embroiled the current scandals actually do believe what they're saying. The problem has been that they've eg. referred to far right conspiracy theories like "the great replacement" (ie. tHe eLiTeS want to replace white people with brown people because reasons) multiple times but then just flat out say that they don't believe in those theories, despite – you know – constantly referring to them

[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“The election will decide whether your generation will inherit a fascist country or a free country, “ Mr Trump told the right-wing activist conference.

He's not wrong; he's just not on the side he thinks he is.

[–] CraigeryTheKid@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

that's what both sides say! how am I to know which side is telling the truth?

edit: (there was an /s in there)

[–] communist@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

...because one side wants to eradicate a group of people (trans people) for their personal choices that they have nothing to do with, and take away rights from people that affect them in exactly no ways.

What does the left want to do that's fascist?

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

Just remember to apply opposite logic to anything republicans say, and it's clearer.

[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is all coded language. When he says "thugs" he means black people. When he says "perverts" he means LGBTQ. This is straight up nazi rhetoric.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

But, its always in China town, or "China Flu".

I can't imagine anything worse than working alongside him. Surely everyone who ever worked alongside him would be frustrated with him lying about everything to his managers

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

While you’re right, my mind immediately couldn’t help but notice the irony that he used to run the place.

And that he happens to preside over a criminal enterprise and be questionable in his morality.

[–] circularfish@beehaw.org 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everything is projection with this guy.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing.

[–] circularfish@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Only by 2 minutes. We’ll call it a tie, random internet friend.

[–] ithelrand@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Every accusation a confession.

[–] violetsareblue@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

First thing I thought as well. Thugs and perverts - does he mean himself and the people running corporations willing to let others suffer / manipulate the law and government? Like the Hollywood exec who said they want people to lose their homes?

Cause that sounds pretty thuggish and perverse to me.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 38 points 1 year ago

He was president for four years. He ran on making the place great again (?). Why didn't he? Golf was more important?

[–] reverendsteveii@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heartbreaking: Worst Person You Know Makes Really Good Point

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Heartbreaking: Guy who became president in 2016 uses the exact same tactic again in 2023

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

He's accidentally correct, just not in the way he's thinking

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Broken clocks...

It's been a hell hole for decades now.

[–] Bautznersenf@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've never lived anywhere else have you?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I've actually never lived in the US, but I have lived just across the northern border most of my life, and in multiple other countries over the years if that's what you're asking.

[–] takeda@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

He announced his candidacy AFTER investigation was started, this is why special counsel was assigned (to remove any appearance of conflict of interest)

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I mean he's not wrong about US being a third world hellhole. Just not for the reasons he thinks

[–] apfoster10@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

All this guy had to do was invest his inheritance into the S&P and live off the dividends. Everyone, including him would have been better off.

[–] Five@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Every accusation a confession. He wishes the United States was a third-world hellhole where he can rig the election. His efforts to politicize the justice department and stack the supreme court are means to that end.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

Weird he didn't claim ownership....

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Seems like I was just reading about Muslims being fans of the GOP. I get it, they both want religious theocracies, but it still makes me scratch my head. Politics are so stupid.

[–] lucidwielder@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the best thing we can do w/ third-world assholes like him is ignore him. Don't talk about it, don't repost, don't engage w/ his supporters - just shutdown the conversation when his name is mentioned. Only reason he has a following is because of his supporters loving to get re-actions from people.

Don't give it to them.

[–] cedarmesa@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Same thing online. Block and move on. Dont engage with the shit stirrers, leave them shouting into the void.

I imagine Donald's political calculation looked pretty much the same as every Republican doing this.

"Hey, we have an election coming up and contributing constructively to literally anything is too hard. Instead, who can we crucify to satisfy the bloodlust of our base. Who's good?"

"Hmmm, that's a tough one. After all, we're all just whiny little babies so we'd need someone who we can really all gang up on."

"Very true. Let's see...LGBTQ people?"

"Hah, good joke using the acronym, Donald. Your sarcasm is extremely funny!"

"I know, shut up. Also, stupid idea, assface. You see how many gay and lesbian people there are? Remember: I'm scared to even fire someone who literally is my employee to their face."

"Oh, well...what about the TQ part?"

"Well, I don't actually even know what that is. Trans? You mean chicks with dicks? Like that time I was in Russia with the-"

"Yeah, yeah. Hey, Dave Chappelle and the Harry Potter woman agree, and they are still making millions."

"Oh. Right. Sure, yeah, whatever. Just make sure I'm as loud and stupid as usual."

"Got it covered, boss."

[–] Dufurson@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

leopards ate his orange face

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

While you’re right, my mind immediately couldn’t help but notice the irony that he used to run the place.

And that he happens to preside over a criminal enterprise and be questionable in his morality.

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