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[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 133 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trump said he had called Ulbricht’s mother to tell her he would pardon her son “in honor of her and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly”.

Wildy transactional.

So... does "full and unconditional" mean he's also pardoned for the murders-for-hire? Or just for being a drug lord and America's Next Top Website Boy?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm actually kind of impressed he kept his word. That's unexpected

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

His part is signing a piece of paper with a Sharpie that one of his handlers puts in front of him. That phone call had to be horrible, Trump trying to explain to a mom he is setting her son that he knows nothing about, free because he once said he would to a large group of people he wants to grift.

Because 0% he knows the guy's name, who he was, or why he was in prison.

Edit - autocorrect =(

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm just going to go with the most obvious grift. Ulbricht is going to go right back to operating a crypto street pharmacy. Hell, he'll do it on the open web now. He'll call it "The New Silk Road" or similar.

And then there's an agreement for the feds to not go after them. In exchange, Ulbricht uses a good portion of his earnings to become the largest single investor in Trumpcoin ever. If asked, the feds can either ignore the question or hide behind some fig leaf excuse they come up with.

It's not like Trump didn't run blatant undeniable cons in the last administration.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's insane that he's just openly being like, "I promise to use the powers of my office to solely benefit myself," and the Supreme Court's just like, "Get it, grrrrrl"

Although, to be fair, it did also benefit a guy who tried to murder five people.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 22 points 1 week ago

He was never convicted on murders for hire, charges were dropped

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"The scum that worked to convict him were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern day weaponization of government against me."

He called Ulbricht's prison sentence "ridiculous."

I clearly recall Trump being president from 2016-2020, Ulbricht was sentenced to life without parole in 2015.

If it was so ridiculous, why didn't he pardon him on his first term? What changed to make it such an immediate priority now?

[–] Podunk@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago

Because he needed the libertarian vote this time in order to win. Its a very cheap promise that guarantees votes and doesnt alienate anyone that doesnt care. Honestly, the fact that he followed through suprises me.

"But why didnt he need the libertarian vote in 16?"

Because he never intended to win the first time. The first run was a fluke. He wanted to play victim and run the media circuit for profit.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Back then he thought Bitcoin was bad and a scam. This time someone showed him how to make money by creating a scam coin and doing a pump and dump, so now he's pro Bitcoin. So pro he'll get rid of all regulation so pump and dump scams are completely legal.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 16 points 1 week ago

Imagine how many times he was asked:

“Why don’t you have your own “Bitcoin” coin yet, Mr. President?”

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tough on drugs... For people who aren't white

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 1 week ago

Someone should really convince him to legalise all drugs to stick it to the cartels.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Wow, holy fuck, I never thought it'd happen. Even a broken clock is right twice a day I guess.

This dude is about to have a very lucrative career.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember this guy being a fucking idiot that paid for several fake assassinations of fake rivals. It was pretty funny.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is funny in hindsight, knowing the assassinations were a scam. But he thought they were real, he talked in great detail about them and payed for them. This is missing from the article, I believe it was part of his indictment.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, he's a piece of shit for sure. I just think it's funny that he's also a moron. What kind of drug lord gets a message saying "Hey, I heard of a guy who wants to take you down, wire me a cool mil and I'll kill him for you, k?" and just... sends the money? More than once?! He definitely tried to rescue an overthrown Nigerian prince as a kid.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don’t forget, he was caught because he posted his email in a public forum while advertising the Silk Road. That email address contained his real name.

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[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This was one of the biggest requests of the Libertarian Party and Trump followed through with it. Could you imagine the Democratic Party agreeing to any demand from the Green Party in an attempt to get votes?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

I can imagine them agreeing to all sorts of things!

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trump is a demon, but this was a good call. His sentence was wildly disproportionate to what he did.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Didn’t he try to hire a hitman?

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because of bitcoin I'm sure.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He referred to the prosecutors as scum and said they were the ones who were persecuting him like it was some purely political shit when he is an incredibly prolific fraudsters, rapist, and traitor. He should have been arrested during the Jan 6th insurrection and never allowed free again.

His reasoning was that Ross was a libertarian and this is to honor the libertarian movement that supported him... dude! He labeled the fucking drug cartels terrorist organizations and Ross enabled so much drug trafficking it isn't funny. How the fuck do people not see through that?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Here's my convoluted conspiracy theory for how this makes sense.

  • Trump launches Trump Coin

  • Trump pardons crypto drug dealer, but not paper drug dealers

  • Crypto market booms

  • Trump sells coin to whichever idiots he hasn't scammed yet

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Could someone explain like to an non American why the president gets to pardon people at all?

If someone committed a crime they're guilty, if there's new evidence that they're not guilty then that's what appeals are for.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In a perfect system, the pardon is meant to be a "check" on the powers of the other branches. (Legislative and judicial). Each branch is meant to both support AND check the others.

Obviously we are watching it all unwind. Certain things were a "gentleman's agreement" in that a president normally wouldn't over do it and just pardon tons of people. We are finding out lots of things were just assumed to be ok, but are easily abused by bad actors

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

My best understanding is that it was a historic right of kings, governors, etc. The idea was to show mercy to those who may have been convicted wrongly, or to people convicted of laws that have been overturned.

Trump is abusing it in ways never done before to payback political supporters.

TBF Biden abused it as well in pardoning his son.

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[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Just FYI this is not just an American thing. In Italy for example the President of the republic can cancel or amend sentences too, and it does happen relatively often, although not in the same partisan way as in the US (but that's also because the president in Italy is a neutral and representative position).

Some example from few years ago when the president graced 33 people (each with a specific articulated motivation) https://www.ilpost.it/2021/12/10/mattarella-grazia-sette-persone-sebastian-oberleteir-heinrich/ (in Italian, but you can translate if you wish).

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s so easy to see who bough his bitcoin “scam” now, isn’t it?

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (39 children)

You think Ross did from prison?

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't know or care about this guy but all drugs should be legal.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Then you should probably care about him. He gave people around the world access to medicine that was illegal

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Didn't Donald the Jester say something about fighting crime before the election? And then he drops thousands of hard criminals back on the street?

[–] lzfm@lemmus.org 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Anyone else remember the panic when you logged in and saw the notice that the site was seized by the feds?

I mean, certainly not something I experienced but I’m sure if I had it would’ve been terrifying to think the feds could find your info

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[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't even notice that this happened:

Today, President Biden granted Leonard Peltier executive clemency and commuted the remainder of his sentence.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago

commuted the remainder of his sentence.

Commuted it to home fucking arrest, not even full clemancy.

[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Probably made a deal and wants all his Bitcoin. Smart kid, you know it's hidden somewhere. Thank God he's out there double life without parole. It's inhumane.

Not to mention that undercover basically set him up to look bad.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If he didn't wanna look bad he shouldn't have sent a person he believed to be a hitman $300,000 to murder someone.

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Oh... He's not even the real Dread Pirate Roberts!

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

OMG Trump did a positive thing 🤯, maybe by mistake

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Wow that brings me joy. Silkroad is where I bought my first drugs

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