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[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

When we finished our basement, I had the electrician run two Cat-6 cables to a box right by every outlet and back to a single point. I had to terminate and punch everything down. But, now I have Ethernet throughout the basement.
Totally worth it.

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I literally just did this over the Christmas break. The drywall mounting outlets are a game changer.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Incredible stuff! Cat6?

Been a dream project for years but when I first explored it a decade ago, cat6 was still new and expensive, and wasn't recommended because "who needs internet that fast".

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I went all out with Cat6A. I have some 10Gbps capabilities with my home lab, and although I currently do not have any 10GbE copper capable systems, I thought I'd try to go future proof.

My only regret is that I only went with riser grade cable - plenum was way too much, even for plain Cat6.

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

Just run OM3 and you'll be set for 100gbe!

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

If your house was built after 2000 (or has updated wiring) you might wanna look into Ethernet over power. The kits are usually less than 50 bucks (depending on the speeds you're using) and they allow you to hardline your computer without running a cable across the entire house.

The way they work is by plugging a parent box directly into the wall near your router you can run a short Ethernet to the box and then plug in the sister box near your gaming rig and run another short Ethernet from the wall to your computer. It basically just uses the copper wires of the house wiring to transfer the data.

There are some exceptions to be aware of. If you have a particularly large house the speeds might suffer over a long enough run. Or if they have the internet on an entirely different breaker panel it won't work.

I am currently using one at my house. The wire gives me better ping, but slightly lower total download speed. So if I'm downloading a big game or something I'll just unplug the Ethernet at let it download faster over wifi and then I switch back to wired for gaming.

[–] Sailing7@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Be aware though if you use DSL: the frequency of the Powerline devices will most likely match and disturb your (in most cases) unshielded two copper wires over wich your DSL Signal is transmitted

Though this also depends wich DSL Variant you are using.

For example Super Vectoring - 250k Down /40k Up will have troubles in most cases to uphold packetloss to a minimum.

All of this is ment to be a thing with DSL Speeds over 100Mbit (at least in Germany).

Source: I am an IT dude, had DSL Problems, Telekom Technichian was sent out and I talked to him about the causes and such.

[–] Sailing7@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

To add some non-text source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywQeJCa3jl8

LTT Quick Vid about Powerlines and how they work.

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I used to use a powerline adapter in a house built in the 60s and it worked great.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah they can work on older homes but I find they tend to work better in newer construction

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When I used one of these it jammed the wifi

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I have never had that issue. I would have been very curious to try and trouble shoot that. Was it older house? Plugged in near the microwave?

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Older but not too old. Not near the microwave. There was a problem with the WiFi not penetrating a wall well so a WiFi extender on the other side connected to Ethernet over power was supposed to fix that. But that turned out more unreliable than before. In the end a WiFi mesh network worked the best.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Mesh networks are pretty hard to beat. Especially for houses with walls that aren't kind to wifi.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Just pop your ancient phone line/ cable outlet off the wall and fish a couple wires up/down the wall

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don't pull up that coax man. If it's good, you can use MoCA. Some cable modems even have a MoCA bridge built-in.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Oh yeah Moca is solid!

Just as long as it's not all going to a box outside or something

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago

I had one room in my old house where the line wasnt stapled to the framing and was able to bind them together and pull it through at the other end. the rest were stapled

current house I can run them through the attic and down the inside of the walls but the attic is full of rat shit and I can't motivate myself even with hazmat suit.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

Never owned a house, so for the past decade, I ran wiring up the side of stairs and to the side of walls.

Last year during the move, I've been too lazy and got wireless. Been fine for us! We're also not playing anything that requires low ping or anything.

Once I own a house and can drill holes, I'm absolutely going back to wires.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

I would love if I could do this, but wouldn't matter because speeds are bad here most of the time because it's an apartment complex. I'm just lucky I don't play online games that require a good connection is all I'm saying.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Better make WiFi routers hubs between every 20ft and interconnect them as mesh network this way your setup will be many times more robust, speaking from experience, on the job we have internet cables drawn inside walls so they aren't accessible and some cables can lose some signal strength after a few years of usage, these hubs are mainly for strengthening signal at key points, but also if at some point signal is lost then WiFi bridges can act as temporary solution until you find where is that cable in chain of cables and replace it

[–] Sailing7@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Sir this is the shitpost community not the shittysysadmin community.

On anothernote: take my upvote :D

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

some cables can lose some signal strength after a few years of usage

Roughly how many years are you thinking about? I've been using the same 10m ethernet cable for more than 20 years. And my expectation was that only physical wear would damage it (eg. rolling and unrolling it to deploy in a different place; possibly closing a door on it accidentally... that kind of thing).

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Same, but cable detoriated despite being untouched inside walls

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 7 hours ago

Or just, get good cables.

OP is likely running it through hallways.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This will have literally a hundred times the latency and terrible jitter.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Still better than open half a building of walls