this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
333 points (97.7% liked)

Technology

60526 readers
3866 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/52638736

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 186 points 3 days ago (2 children)

DJI voluntarily created its geofencing feature, so it makes a certain degree of sense that the company would get rid of it now that the US government no longer seems to appreciate its help, is blocking some of its drone imports, calls DJI a “Chinese Military Company,” and has started the countdown clock on a de facto import ban.

That sounds exactly like how Trump does business, tit for tat and quid pro quos.. thats also why Zuck is acting out - gonna be a wild 4 years

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 85 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You mispelled depressing. For some reason you spelled it as "wild".

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He also mispelled forever. For some reason he spelled it as "4 years".

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Joking about this is part of how it slowly gains acceptance. Let's just not

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

Well the next 4 years are part of forever

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago
[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I kinda hate this. What I'd really like is the option to turn it on or off. I live near an airport airspace boundary and it's nice to have that wall keeping me from straying into airspace I'm not authorized for, but at the same time, sometimes the drone freezes and won't come back, so it'd be great to be able to get full control back temporarily.

Their reasoning is to give responsibility back to the pilot. A responsible pilot might want that guard rail. Having it as an option only makes sense.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

At the same time, I do other this to simply blocking all flight near airports.

Years ago I got clearance to fly for an event near an airport but the fucking drone refused to fly.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

DJI probably wants to avoid lawsuits. I can imagine anyone caught flying in these zones can blame their software.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, and doesn't want to pay people to maintain that feature. It makes sense for them. Still, that feature and their maps were awesome. I hope they don't stop updating their maps that show the boundaries because IMHo they're better than anything else, though I think they may not meet FAA requirements. All the FAA maps I've seen look so primitive and have seemingly contradictory information.

[–] druidjaidan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

As a pilot...the real faa maps take training to read, but they are quite accurate. But maybe they publish something useless and contradictory for drone operators.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 111 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They were about the only hobbyist level drone manufacturer that was doing any sort of geofencing at all. Unsurprising they stopped when none of the other companies saw repercussions for not doing it.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago

They're the only hobbyist manufacturer with any scale. If you look at the Dedrone stats it's just entirely the DJI show followed by AUTEL by a mile and then DIY stuff. The DIY drones can be built from anything and can be trivially designed to avoid surveillance so you're not gonna get anywhere with them anyway.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So, just like how pretty much every other drone manufacturers drones already work. Somehow people only give DJI shit over this and develop a curious blind spot about everybody else.

It is trivially easy for anyone with thumbs to kit-build a drone with no regulatory compliance whatsoever, in nearly any size, with absurd range and capabilities, for just a few hundred dollars. Despite that state of affairs having been the case for years, this has mysteriously failed to cause the Earth to fall out of its orbit into the sun.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

IDK, most of the kits require soldering (because the industry is fundamentally braindead) and if you go look at the various online communities, you'll quickly see that this is one hell of a filter.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i'm scared of the magic cancer smoke

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Just get the lead free solder and no clean flux, it's much less cancer

[–] nyandere@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's the real answer...

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh 100% magic. And SMT hot air soldering is voodoo magic

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (13 children)

We were taught that at high school....

load more comments (13 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know, they've been dropping a lot of ordinance with cobbled together drones in Ukraine. Just sayin, for no reason in particular reason.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg will be sitting together at Trump's inauguration. This also is a comment that I felt like making for no particular reason.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

(╭☞´ิ∀´ิ)╭☞

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I heard once that people can make improvised explosive contraptions in their own houses.

I just wanted to share a random unrelated fact.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Replace the plastic blades with sharpened metal ones, and you got yourself an anti-personnel terrorism machine.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So is a riding lawn mower. Or a car. The sun can kill you. As can weak ventilation. You could be bitten by a spider, or poisoned by bad food. An aneurysm could take you any second. Death haunts you every day and night, and there is never a guarantee that you'll wake up any time you rest your eyes.

But sure, drones are the threat.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This will last exactly as long as it takes somebody to fly a drone into the side of the White House. Not any kind of special drone, just some idiot trying to get a cool shot for their YouTube channel.

DJI is about to get banned anyways, so they just don't care anymore

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We might get a video of the white house's defence systems shooting it down instead.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I've done some work related to the anti drone systems and I assure you even the best of the best is an absolute joke against all but the most naive operator. The ultimate drone defense right now is somewhere between magnum #6 bird and #4 turkey shot :/

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If said work was more than a year ago then it is significantly outdated.

Watch perun's videos covering drone warfare in Ukraine it gives a good overview of what has been tried and its effective.

The us government absolutely can shoot down a couple hundred dollar drone its just a matter of if they need to use a half a million dollar intercepted to do it.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah a fellow perun addict.

Honestly I think he oversold the effectiveness of the systems. The work I did is still ongoing so I'm up to speed on the available systems, though mostly on the RF side. If you watch the stuff coming out of Ukraine the drones aren't really being impeded all that much and if you know how to use ardupilot and selectively enable your data link you can pretty much get away with whatever you want because the US isn't gonna allow anyone to jam GPS right next to multiple major airports. If you want to avoid even relying on GPS there are starting to be mature solutions out there too.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay that sounds cool and in my brain it's like having the turrets and starcraft spin around to shoot stuff down, but in real life I know it's just an EMF jamming field, if that much.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is a weird response to the drone hysteria in New Jersey.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Blue0x@programming.dev 12 points 3 days ago

I don’t see how this could go wrong…

load more comments
view more: next ›