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Elon Musk, co-head of the Department of Government Efficiency under Donald Trump’s advisory team, revised his claim of finding $2 trillion in federal budget cuts to a “best-case outcome” of $1 trillion.

Musk’s earlier target, dismissed as unrealistic by experts, had included the entire discretionary budget of $1.7 trillion.

While Musk and co-lead Vivek Ramaswamy plan to recommend cuts, specifics remain unclear.

Experts warn savings may require targeting mandatory programs like Medicaid, potentially causing hardships.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 182 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Anyone who actually believed they would find $2 trillion was an idiot, the rest of us knew they'd just cut the things they hate, bump the subsidies that favor them and their friends, and call it a day.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Your comment will age poorly when Trump’s tarrifs lead to a collapsing economy and he prints money like mad to solve it, resulting in hyper-inflation letting President Musk keep his election promise.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wondering how that connects as I didn't mention tarrifs?

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After hyperinflation, Musk will easily cut $100T from the budget, making your claim that only an idiot would believe he could find $2T in cuts laughable.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Aha, well played!

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago

The funny thing is....it's not like their voters would care if they lied. They could literally say "We cut the budget by $17 trillion by making sure the trans kids don't get surgeries!" And their voters would fucking cheer.

They wouldn't look deep enough to actually care what they cut.

So the question is why even make this announcement? I'm guessing it's a distraction from something else.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This doesn't look good for Elon. Lucky for him that he's the president.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Doesn't matter his fan base will eat it up

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[–] fannymcslap@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gasp. Lying cunt lied cuntily.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

While having no fucking clue what he was talking about. More news at ten.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remember when he landed people on Mars in 2022?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember when Tesla released fully autonomous self driving cars?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was way back in 2014, hard to imagine a world without them now! It's how I take my cybercab to the hyperloop to get to work!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Can I get a video of the before and after claims? Gotta make the presentation super simple in this day and age.

[–] pastaPersona@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Man, it’s almost like he has no idea what he’s talking about or something. Definitely a good candidate to be making policy decisions affecting millions of people.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Sounds like they’re not an efficient use of government resources and should be cut

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh? The places he's looking at actually work fairly efficiently already? Or the inefficiencies are outside their control? The inefficient sections are the places he can't go, like the DOD?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any inefficiency likely comes from private industry bending the government over and stealing our wallet. I've been paid obscenely better as a contractor than my government counterparts, and I'm probably only seeing half of what my company charges. Entire departments are twenty contractors at a cost of $5 million per year and two actual government employees making a grand total of $60k each. Maybe double that at most by the time you include all the benefits.

But if you try to trim that, you're cutting into the profits of private industry, and we sure as fuck can't have that, can we?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Or they've already had their budgets slashed so much that there's nothing left to slash. Which is pretty common unfortunately.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

But those things actually help poor people. Can't have that, can we?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wherever he cut, you can safely assume it will only hit the people at the bottom, not those at the top.

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[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i’m actually kind of shocked he admitted this. isn’t his usual strategy to promise super unrealistic things, not deliver, and then make the same promise the next year?

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[–] shininghero@pawb.social 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh please, you're not even going to get $100 billion without stepping on some toes in the Military-Industrial complex, and that's going to make you some lifelong political enemies.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If allowed, Elon will find trillions to funnel to himself and Trump's cronies however.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Oh make no mistake, his goal is to be the world's first trillionaire within the next 4-years. Why else would he so publicly be going full fascist unless he was ready to fully embrace the concept of "fuck everyone and everything ever to be" money.

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

If he cuts anything it’ll be support for middle class and poor people and itll be jack shit, it will fuck everything up and it will be touted by clowns as a success.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can we take a moment to acknowledge a few billionaires made their own government department, and people are just rolling with it?

They're a random private company. Why are we just letting that fact slide???

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

$2 Trillion was more than the discretionary budget of the US. It literally couldn't be done.

Which is why it was a stupid promise and literally anyone with any expertise could tell you that. Which shows you how unserious Musk is about this.

Now that he cut the promise in half and it's still politically impossible but not literally impossible, I reiterate my request...say how you plan to do it. Give us a rough idea what programs are being cut, even the easiest 20%.

By having the conversation about the number alone, we're buying his political premise. The money is not there for no reason, these are democratically popular government programs, that's why they exist. So which popular programs are you getting rid of to save this money?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an Ontarian I feel we are actually more than a few years from America in terms of this bullshit.

You can go back to when Rob Ford won the mayorship of Toronto talking about "stopping the gravy train". He found no gravy.

Fast forward to Doug Ford becoming premier to "stop the gravy train" of which he found no gravy. In fact he unlawfully terminated numerous contracts costing Ontarians even more money.

Short story, people who try to reduce complex economic issues into simple solutions are snake oil salesmen not to be trusted.

Unfortunately in today's media landscape it works.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Ya, so, we're not going to do any of the things we promised. We're just going to try to punish our political enemies and fuck shit up while looting every last penny that we can and running away while the country burns.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

"Savings" they will find:

  • any agencies that monitor, counteract or release reports on Putin and Russian activity

  • agencies that regulate electric vehicle production or road safety

  • Agencies that regulate space flight and aerial pollution

  • The NLRB, OSHA and whichever agencies work to oppose child labor

  • agencies that regulate pharmaceutical pump and dump schemes

  • agencies that regulate emerald mines

  • The CFPB

  • agencies that monitor ethics among government employees

  • agencies that regulate recreational ketamine, ritalin and cocaine use

  • child protective services and agencies that intervene in spousal abuse

  • anecdotes that certify or otherwise support divorce attorneys

  • agencies that originate, maintain and enforce restraining orders

  • agencies that track and publish flight information to enable safer travel between all of the aircraft simultaneously in the sky.

  • agencies that allow for the creation, distribution and use of rape kits (yes, even though there's a backlog. You're very clever)

  • Agencies that keep a database of all people with small, odd shaped penises that no longer get hard....

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Never fear rich people and corporations - Trump is still going to do another $2T tax cut regardless.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If RFK is crazy because a worm ate part of his brain, it seems like Enron Musk may have had drugs that are the equivalent of 2 worms.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's been known to, shall we say, "macrodose" ketamine at parties.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I have macro dosed ketamine and I know that there are no 2 trillion to cut in the government of the US.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yes, but how often have you done it and were you stupid to begin with?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah a lot of people who know nothing about ketamine love to blame it for Musk's idiocy.

Dude is just a moron no matter what drugs he takes.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Musk’s earlier target, dismissed as unrealistic by experts, had included the entire discretionary budget of $1.7 trillion.

FFS! There's probably TODDLERS who know more about how the government works than Musk! 🤦

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Elon is such a dumbass.

Edit: I'm sorry, *President Elon is such a dumbass.

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

next year they'll raise the deficit by $2T and start saying that they saved $2T off of a $4T raise to the budget

[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Those two clowns couldn't find their own asses in a dark room with both hands and a flashlight.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's all going to be healthcare / social safety nets, and it's going to be dwarfed by the tax cuts Trump gives people.

[–] chuck@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seriously what an unexpected outcome....

The one trillion difference needs to be paid back from his salary and a potential salary claw back for this underperformance.

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[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I'm shocked, SHOCKED by this revelation!

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