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[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 217 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Weird how we have to pay more money every single year, and insurance somehow provides us less and less for our greater and greater spend

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 101 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or, with car insurance, you get punished for actually using the service you pay for.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A service you are legally required to pay for, no less.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't the required car insurance the part that covers the OTHER cars, property and people you might harm with your car?

I don't think it's required that you carry enough insurance to be able to replace your own car. Might depend on your state, though?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Usually if there is a lien against the title, you're required to carry full coverage, and liability only when you own the title.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh, but ~~if you're rich,~~ we have the best healthcare system in the world! ~~Rich~~ people from all over the globe come to America for medical care!

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

It is actually kinda incredible. I remember seeing a comic in Mad Magazine back in the 90s that satirized insurance companies by cutting 'expensive' healthcare and the cartoon showed an emaciated patient on IV and the insurance guy about to cut the tube with scissors.

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[–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 112 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I have a friend who has a prosthetic. Sure they could live their life in a wheelchair. But this guy goes hiking, and acts like a fully capable walking person. The quality of life is huge. It really gives back their life.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yep. It’s absolutely insane they wouldn’t cover it.

It’s honestly unethical as shit.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Unethical and counterproductive. Having a prosthetic limb would almost invariably lead to a less sedentary lifestyle, which is strongly correlated with better health. Paying for a prosthetic today has to be cheaper than paying for a heart attack or diabeties later.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Yes, but who cares about later if there are quarterly and yearly profits to get.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

You're making the assumption that they'll pay out for a heart attack or diabetes later. You just said that they were caused by the pre-existing condition of not having a prosthetic limb.

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[–] credo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are saying it’s not “medically necessary” to have any quality of life. As long as you’re breathing, you’re A-okay in their book.

This is what insurance in the US has come to mean.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Like how they still consider dental care to be "cosmetic." They'll rip them out of your head free of charge, but putting new ones in? No sir... You can eat mush!

But God forbid anyone mentions a solution that includes socialized healthcare...

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Noooo heckin' killing CEOs is violent and bad

Then this fucking headline pops up.

They're basically crippling people, who could have at least some kind of limb use, by denying them limbs that THEY ALREADY PAID FOR AS PART OF INSURANCE PAYMENTS.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is exactly the type of shit that radicalizes people into violent action.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's almost like they're trying to force people to be violent. I don't get it.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe you're being a little unreasonable. Have you stopped to think about what the money might want? Maybe your money wants to be with the CEO without partaking in some nasty exchange of goods or services.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 week ago
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 63 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This just feeds into my disillusionment with science and technology. What is the point of having developed these incredible things to then not go and use them. I just have to spell it out now. What. The. Fuck. You know I was born into a modern age but looks like im going to die in the dark ages.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In capitalism, EVERYTHING only exists for profit. If there isn't money to be drained, it's tossed to the landfill

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It’s not a Sci/Tech issue.

It’s a dystopian capitalism issue. When products that don’t have adequate profit margin and volume to make notable contributions to the bottom line, or worse yet, negativley affect the bottom line in a high per-unit cost, they are a liability. Profits direct research, too, unfortunately.

Humanity, quality of life, and all that medical shit is secondary or even further down the priority list for the corporations thinking about their profits first and the “service” last.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Man, I wish I could serve on that Luigi jury.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

So say we all.

[–] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder if someone cut off the CEO's limbs, would the medical necessity of prosthetic limbs would be questioned?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know, maybe we should force healthcare CEOs to be insured with the lowest tier of their own insurance.

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Wow. This means that now, someone can say that medical bills literally cost them an arm & a leg.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbh I was expecting the first comment to contain the name Luigi...

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[–] shininghero@pawb.social 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lemmy Netizens Consider Offing Another Healthcare CEO, Questioning Their Industry Necessity - Fediverse News Network
^*not^ ^an^ ^actual^ ^news^ ^network.^ ^Yet.^

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[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Someone needs to play super Mario bros again.

[–] GnillikSeibab@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago
[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

"I mean technically any medical service is not truly medically necessary, right? You could just die*"

*Funeral services are not covered under your current plan.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Someone needs some adjusting.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago

Burn it all to the ground

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Denied: Can't you just lie there like a broken Crash Test Dummy until you stop being a burden?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You do get the sense your continued existence is a problem for them.

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[–] bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why are US citzens not founding a health care co-op? Are there even viable solutions left over there?

[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 21 points 1 week ago

Between the regulatory capture and corporate/political bribery, it'll be tough to change anything from a grassroots perspective.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, I can spell out the "medical necessity" for you insurance companies in a way you'll understand: mental health is important for physical health. You do things to improve mental health and you also improve physical health. So if you improve someone's mental health now, you won't be paying out for all of the later physical problems brought on by the stress and the knowledge that their life would be better if only some more miserly than Scrooge insurance company would let them have a fucking leg.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And having a prosthetic limb is important for physical health anyways. Helps you be more active, massively increases productivity (that’s what capitalists want right?), decreases wheelchair/caregiver costs, etc.

It’s simply an all around win.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Excellent points. The increased physical activity part would also save these idiot insurance companies money, but they would have to think beyond the next quarter.

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Insurance companies push obvious lies to intentionally defraud the public. That's their entire buisness model. That's why your doctor had to fight through dozens of automatic rejections sent by the insurance company, they fully intend to lie in order to avoid making payments they agreed too when signing you up for insurance. A just society would be putting these people in federal prisons.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That doesn't seem like a smart response to one of you getting assassinated.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For idiots who would like the UK to adopt American system instead:

"NHS covers the cost of prosthetic limbs for those who need them. In the UK, there are around 55,000 to 60,000 patients who require prosthetic limbs due to amputation or congenital limb deficiencies, and NHS England allocates about £60 million annually for these services."

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You can make a perfectly serviceable peg leg with an old broom handle. Ask your insurance company for a free how-to brochure!

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

You think a CEO has ever been beaten near death with a broken prosthetic limb? Just asking maybe that's a thing.

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