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Despite disavowing Project 2025 during the campaign, Trump’s transition team is now using its extensive database of vetted conservative candidates to help fill over 4,000 government positions.

Project 2025, criticized for its extreme policy proposals and links to Trump’s first administration, created a “conservative LinkedIn” of 10,000 candidates.

While some contributors are being tapped for key roles, others face rejection due to controversial stances.

Democrats, who used Project 2025 in campaign attacks, are warning of its influence on Trump’s agenda and planning policy responses.

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[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 16 minutes ago

America is just experiencing a case of all-time stupid. There's no excuse that I can find that says Americans didn't know about Project 2025.

If we're in a 'golden age' of anything, it's the golden age of ignorance and stupidity for America. Where's my Brawndo?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 hour ago

Project 2025 is and has always been a right wing conservative wishlist the GOP has maintained since forever.

The idea the conservatives were ever disavowing conservatism was laughably stupid.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

So what are you going to do about it America?

It seems like everyone is waiting for another chance to vote. Voting isn't the only political action.

If you want to prevent this agenda you still have options. I don't just mean protests and riots, but organized labor.

A general strike would cripple them. Start organizing your workplaces, join unions, join community groups. The time for voting is over the time for direct action is now. You don't have to wait until the whole project is implemented, you don't have to wait for a disappointing Democratic candidate to gaslight you in 2028. Take action now, join a movement now. The more you do now the better off you'll be in the future.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How does one go about looking for movements to join? Honestly asking. I'm assuming I can't just type "labor movements near me" into Google maps, but I honestly don't know where to start looking for trustworthy resources on this stuff.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

By its nature it'll vary in each community, political parties are always a safe bet, most areas will have socialists or communists and whether or not you identify as one of those they'll likely have resources for labor organizations in the area. I'm not suggesting that everyone has to be a leftist, but just that leftists have been doing this work for decades and tend to organize.

The IWW union is an international union that provides support to people looking to organize their workplaces.

On the topic of unions, I'm sure most unions in your city would be willing to help answer your questions and give you guidance. They might have websites where you can reach out to ask for advice.

Your city's pride parade or other socially conscious events like demonstrations will also see participation from these kinds of groups. It can be a good way to see what groups are operating in your city. For example your city might still have student protest encampments for Palestine on university campuses. Unions and political groups go to these and put material up at these.

Do that Google search! Looking for leftist, socialist, communist, anarchist, or labour unions based on trade in your city is actually not a bad way to get started.

I'm new to direct action myself and others might have better suggestions.

It's ok to start small, like a community garden even. These are all part of a broader network that you'll have exposure to once you are looking.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 28 minutes ago

Nice, thanks for the advice! That's super helpful for me, and hopefully anyone else that comes across this thread

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Americans keep bitching about wanting a better candidate but nobody steps up or gets off the couch.

There are lot of problems. The biggest is funding.

Most politicians come from money. Not all, but a good number. This, oddly enough, can make them a bit more independent since they don't have special interests demanding their time to get their money. But depending on their motives for running, this can also make them very susceptible to corruption to make their money back.

If you don't have money, you have to raise it. You can either do this by meeting with special interests (oil, pharma, etc.) and be their lapdog or you can solicit money from the public. Both have their pros and cons in terms of getting elected, staying elected, and making sure you can do the work you set out to do.

Let's assume you have money and it's untainted.

The second biggest problem you have is name recognition. If you are a nobody, no one is going to elect you. You have to earn name recognition by either winning several smaller elections, by being active in the community, or by being famous. Usually if your rich, you have name recognition so you can usually skip this step. But if you're not, and you're raising money the old fashion way, you need to get your name out there. You remember Joe Exotic? You know him because he ran a ridiculous campaign.

Let's assume that you're active in the community and you have pretty good name recognition.

The hardest hurdle is going to be that you have almost half of your electorate actively rooting against you.

IMO, the reason why you don't see many young people in politics, even at the local level, is because all three of these steps seem so insurmountable. I looked into it. I never formed a committee or anything but the amount of money alone you have to raise is crazy.

You need a thick skin and you need to be willing to compromise, either your morals or your values, often both.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 52 minutes ago

A better candidate did run. Any candidate who ran was better

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 41 points 3 hours ago

And why should anyone be surprised?

  1. Rumor of shitty thing republicans are planning

  2. Republicans deny shitty thing is being planned, that was just (insert republican official here) brought up, claim it’s just the official on their own.

  3. Months later republicans are trying to officially enact shitty thing they denied planning.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 15 points 3 hours ago

This can’t be happening he told me otherwise. /s

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 91 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've run into some trump voters who aren't worried about project 2025 because "i'm going to vote against it in 2025" and it's like… goddammit, why did the republicans get so good at propaganda so fast (hint: Russian money)

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 40 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What? The mental gymnastics on these people...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No mental gymnastics are needed when they straight up don't know how their own government works.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 26 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

yeah. these are people who think the new president takes office election night, think the federal government does ballot measures, and haven't ever really voted in a national election that wasn't for president. it's not mental gymnastics to not know things

[–] Einstein@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure 50 years ago, doctors would be calling it mental retardation.

You don't even have to go back that far. It was still the accepted term in at least the 90s.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 129 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

You know who else disavowed what he wrote publicly to pacify his critics? Hitler with Mein Kampf. He kept repeating he wrote Mein Kampf in 1925 but had changed his views since. Guess what: he hadn't.

And surprise-surprise, the Orange Utan hasn't either. It's almost like we didn't see that one coming from a mile away...

And don't think for a second that I'm the only one to see the striking parallel.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 67 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I have a friend who says things like "oh that project isn't real its just a think tank".

Nobody writes a document that long and detailed just as a little thought experiment. It was obviously a manifesto and I don't know how so many people against project 2025 still voted for the party supporting it.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It had a 4!!!!! Percent approval rating. 4!!

And yet.. he won the popular vote.

I'm an American in a poor red state. I really hope the FO portion of fafo hits us SUPER hard.

It'll suck for me.. but man it'll be great to be that smug asshole reminding folks who they voted for.

In my county 23% voted Harris. So odds are good that dude in the lifted Ford is a trumpkin.

Fucking idiots....

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 49 minutes ago

Yet she was part of the administration that got you that huge infrastructure project and new factory incentives the donvict will take credit for

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Same, red county-district-state. I would hope the same but they won't attribute it to their deal leader. His Tariffs and GOP policy will fuck them too, but fox and podcasts will tell them it's the deep state Democrats keeping them down. They all were doing the "this is Biden's America" posts in 2020. GOP can do no wrong in their eyes. Used to be child rape was a deal breaker but even that is A-OK now, as long as the Democrats lose.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

All the policy goals are the same as what's been in the Republican platform for decades. The only thing Project 2025 adds is how to get there. Is Trump a useful idiot? Maybe, although it would be silly to operate under that assumption rather than believing he's just as committed as the rest of them. Either way, the idea having seeped into the popular consciousness of the American voter that Project 2025 is something other than a serious plan for a Republican administration is an astonishing bit of doublethink. Orwell spins like a turbine in his grave.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Actually getting the policys in place is the hardest part of policy making. Now they'll be able to do that.

We're going to need to hook Orwell up to the grid. He's going to produce a lot of spins in the next few years.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

I don't know how so many people against project 2025 still voted for the party supporting it.

Can you be truly against something if you cannot even be bothered to have the slightest idea what it is?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Trump has never read Project 2025. Or Mein Kampf. Or The Art of the Deal. Or any book in his life.

He might have listened to the audiobook version of Mein Kampf, but probably not in the original German like his dad would have.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 49 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, his wife and his friends said they've only seen him actively read one book, which is a book of Hitler's speeches.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's just what he wanted them to think. Inside the book, he had hidden a single Bazooka Joe comic that took him 5 years to read. And then he didn't get the joke so he had to take another 5 years to read it. And he still didn't get the joke so... basically he's going to put anyone with a Bazooka Joe comic in their possession in front of a firing squad when he gets in charge.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Okay but bazooka firing squad sounds at least interesting

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago
[–] sirico@feddit.uk 28 points 5 hours ago
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 hours ago

I'm shocked, SHOCKED! ... Well, not that shocked.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago
[–] Apathy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

When an individual tells you they are crazy, It’s best to trust them on that judgement

[–] spacecadet@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Most of America doesn’t give a shit about California women’s right to an abortion, or that transgenders should be allowed in whatever bathroom they want, or that Trump is “weird”. They care about “am I better off now than I was last year?” And the answer for a lot of people is “no”. They look at the democrats brag about unemployment rates being low and that is inflation is brought under control, while most of America is still paying $5 for eggs that used to be $2. Everyday middle Americans can no longer afford simple things and their kids are worse off than they are. I know this problem wasn’t wholly created by Biden, Harris, or even Trump, but Americans felt like Harris didn’t care about their plight and that her upper class California woman self was really unrelatable. Then Harris spends a lot time trying to get celebrity endorsements and she is so out of touch that she didn’t realize celebrity endorsements actually lose you votes. People don’t care what Beyonce and Cardi B think about politics, well not the smart people or the people’s vote you actually need.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

Who pays $5 for eggs? Ok, the organic ones at Whole Foods near me are, but I live in a high cost of living area.

I don’t believe these red staters do any of;

  • live in a higher cost of living area
  • go to Whole Foods
  • buy organic eggs from Whole Foods
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

transgenders

Not much of an LGBT ally, I presume? It's pretty dehumanizing to call transgender individuals that, as though they're not people.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

The dominant forces in the Democratic party are more likely to abandon trans people than to shift left.

A big part of the problem is that Democrat supporters are overwhelmingly politically inactive. Instead of shushing anti-genocide voices, climate protestors, etc. they should be joining and amplifying those voices not just around election time but always, constantly.

The DNC will always fast-track a centrist candidate and suppress progressive candidates if there's no political pressure outside of election time. They get their money from the same people that the Republicans do.

"Vote blue no matter who" and voting as the only political action guarantee the ratchet effect.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Celebrities aside they were parading Cheney and Bush around... These were the "vote blue no matter who" enemies of 20 years ago. Who wants to vote for a party that'll brag about Barron Trump's endorsement in 20 more years?

You can't run on not being your opponent. You can't fight a status quo disruptive candidate from the far right with bland centrist positions. People wanted change, only one party offered change.

Yes people are dumb, yes their faces will be eaten, yes to all of those things. But Democrats still lost. Trump didn't win, Harris lost.

Now they'll go even more right and wonder why nobody is excited to get out to vote.

The right wing already had a good candidate. Where's the left wing candidate?