Yeah, this is super on-brand for Apple. They still have the Jobsian slavish devotion to branding with all the Tim Apple complete lack of understanding as to its value or how to leverage that value.
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Did.....did you really try to say Apple doesn't understand how to leverage its value?
How many billions did you make last year?
Sorry to bring this argument to yet another thread, but the only reason why what is fundamentally the exact same feature was generally perceived as a disaster for Microsoft last week and what seems to be a net win for Apple this week is that man, they do seem to understand these things.
"Apple Intelligence" is a very stupid name, though.
I'd say it's because Apple's implementation isn't essentially spyware at it's core. The Microsoft implementation was straight up deranged and dangerous, frankly.
Nah, it's exactly the same. Arguably in some aspects more suspect, in that it doesn't seem to have an opt-out at all and it IS sending some data over the Internet for remote processing.
Presumably better local security than the first version MS announced, but we'll have to see when compared to the shipping version. Definitely obscuring what they're actually doing a lot more. It's Apple magic, not just letting some AI look at your screen and stuff.
But hey, ultimately, that's my point. The fact that they went on that stage, sold the exact same thing and multiple people are out here, of all places going "no, but this time it's fine" shows just how much better at selling stuff Apple is. I'm not particularly excited or intend to use either of these, but come on, Apple's messaging was so far ahead of MS's on this one.
doesn't seem to have an opt-out
It’s opt in
Oh, did I miss that? Did they explain how that works and what AI features are still functional if you don't turn it on?
Apple‘s solution does not require 200gb of screenshots where most personal info is visible in plain text… Apple wins here because they have a clear structure in their OS and all important data already in Apple‘s own Apps. And they analyze this stuff already very much as one can see with all the Siri suggestions everywhere since, I don’t know 5 years? microsoft‘s chaos approach in their Windows is now shooting them in their foot real hard.
I hope, that we can get a open source linuxAI to be run locally, that integrates like AppleAI. Should be better possible since, at least, all apps are installed mostly the same way(s) and are designed to be dependent on each other.
I'm not saying anything particularly new and I'm mostly repeating what I've been saying since tghe announcement, but I'd argue that all of those caveats are entirely down to branding and PR and not engineering.
App design, yes. Microsoft made their Timeline 2 so that it actually shows you in the UI all the screenshots that it took from you doing stuff and that's creepy. Apple doesn't tell you what they're pulling and they are almost certainly processing it further to get deeper insights... but they do it in the background so you don't have to think about it as much.
So again, better understanding of the user, messaging and branding. Same fundamental functionality. Way different reactions.
Call Apple what you will, but suggesting the 9th highest revenue company in the world lacks understanding of how to leverage its brands doesn’t really make sense to me.
Also, Forbes rates Apple as having the highest brand value of any company in the world.
Yeah but some dude on a tiny little no name website could totally do better man. He TRULY understands business unlike Apple.
I agree with you. I think the responses to your comment are missing a few key points
- Calling an Apple product something weird with “i” or “Apple” is Jobsian slavish devotion to branding
- Under Tim Cook, innovation has arguably stagnated (see comparisons to Ballmer
- Cook has not leveraged the value of Apple’s innovation successfully eg Apple Silicon being limited to Apple devices vs PowerPC days, the Vision Pro being horrible, the recent hilarious iPad creativity crusher ad.
- A company with Apple’s market cap can do dumb shit and still appear valuable just because they have Apple’s market cap.
I read OP as “names are dumb and this is just Apple trying to be different in the same way everyone else is.” I think all of that is true and I think it’s valid criticism of the product. My last point about Apple’s value is probably the most important. They can do a lot of dumb shit before it matters.
Because they can't patent it and troll everyone else for money.
What are some examples of Apple being patent trolls? Genuine question
Samsung Lawsuits: Apple’s series of lawsuits against Samsung over alleged patent infringements related to smartphone and tablet designs and functionalities have been seen by some as overly aggressive. These lawsuits have led to significant financial penalties for Samsung and have been viewed as attempts to stifle competition rather than protect genuine innovations.
App Store Patents: Apple has been known to enforce its patents related to the App Store, targeting other companies that have tried to create similar platforms. This has sometimes been criticized as an attempt to maintain a monopoly over app distribution for iOS devices.
HTC Lawsuit: In 2010, Apple filed a lawsuit against HTC for allegedly infringing on 20 Apple patents related to the iPhone’s user interface and underlying architecture. Some viewed this as an aggressive move to slow down the growth of Android devices.
Patent Assertions Against Smaller Companies: There have been instances where Apple has asserted its patents against smaller companies or startups. Critics argue that these actions can stifle innovation and competition, as smaller companies often lack the resources to fight prolonged legal battles against a giant like Apple.
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Let's be honest. They certainly plan to, but first they're gonna see if saying "Apple Intelligence" a bunch is going to convince people they actually did something innovative.
Knowing apple fans, it will work.
They did kind of do something innovative. Some of “Apple Intelligence” features can run on device, even with only 8gb of ram.
This isn't actually innovative it is just not OpenAIs business model. This recent trend is honestly a much smaller blip than most people recognize.
Most large opensource models run just fine on 8gb. It’s absolutely nothing new…
We’ll see how it pans out. As of now I don’t know of any phone manufacturer doing on-device AI… so??? Is that innovation?
I mean the biggest innovation here isn't the "AI" (partially "on-device" or otherwise). It's exposing the apps action hooks to the model.
Ok, so either way, there’s innovation no?
I get the “Apple bad” thing but come on, they actually ARE doing something here
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Google has been doing on device stuff since at least the pixel 3
Google does on the Pixel line, at least for pictures (and probably more).
Too late
Here you go Apple: 🍏I
It's because it's not artificial, it's organic.
They're trying to make people associate the term "AI" with its long form spelled out, which is obviously Apple Intelligence. The goal would eventually be that when people throw out the term AI, it's assumed that they mean apple intelligence.
Great point!
This is exactly why, and as simple as it is, it’s brilliant passive marketing. It stealthily implants an association to Apple Intelligence into every product and article that mentions AI, and might even require the author to distinguish their meaning when they use the acronym. They’ve Sherlock’d AI.
It's ok. Everyone else will do it for them.
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They just want to Think Different.
Unfortunately that often means being stupid.
couldn't you at least choose a name with different initials?
It's the whole point. They'll try to take over the AI brand by doing this.
"So what does AI actually stand for? "
"It stands for Apple Intelligence, of course!"
"Wow, Apple really is everywhere, they are so good and competent."
This will happen too often.
yeah but then it doesn't make sense to refuse to call it AI.
It does, because now it's their own thing.
So instead of having what everyone else is having, they have their own and also hijack theirs, because Apple put the company name in it.
The worst part about this is us calling it "Apple intelligence" ironically will make idiots believe that to be correct.
iIntelligence?
... or BI for better Intelligence, CI for common intelligence .... YI for yummy intelligence, ZI for zoomers intelligence ...
iA. Gotta stick with the naming convention. IntelliApple or some thing.
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If you acronymize "Apple Intelligence", you will get AI. They were probably just hiding it.
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