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Trump plans to impose tariffs of up to 100% on semiconductors manufactured in Taiwan, aiming to push U.S. tech companies like Apple, Nvidia, and AMD to produce chips domestically.

The tariffs target Taiwan's TSMC, a key supplier, despite its partial U.S. production in Arizona.

Trump criticized Biden’s CHIPS Act for funding companies like Intel and proposed tariffs as an alternative incentive.

Experts warn the move could raise prices for electronics as most TSMC chips are assembled in Asia before export to the U.S.

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[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago (3 children)

TSMC opened a factory in Arizona, so it's really a big f u to the people of Taiwan while the owners of tsmc are good to go.

I get the bring jobs to the US bit, but the cost will be passed on to consumers and the whole market will shrink. There are existing chip fab facilities in the US, maybe efforts should focus on why they can't compete instead of reducing demand for electronics inside the US.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Chips can't even be fully produced here. You can make the chip here, but the packaging and some other things need to happen in Taiwan still. Until they get that goin the fab in the US is almost useless.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention all the really cool machines that make the chips are made in Europe

[–] Tja@programming.dev 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's almost like we are in a global economy!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

WHY CAN'T EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD JUST BE MADE IN AMERICA!???!

DON'T THEY KNOW THAT'S WHAT JESUS WANTS??!

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Globalist!! /s

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The breadth of products and industries this will touch is going to be massive. Even if you're not buying electronics from a company, those companies still have to buy and replace their own electronics to operate which, if those prices go up, it raises operating costs. Your cheeseburger can get a bit pricier because of this.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Everything has a microcontroller anymore.

keep yer microchips out of my cheeseburgers!

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that the Taiwan government doesn't allow advanced chip technology knowledge be used in the US factory?...

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

I mean, it is their one real bargaining chip to make sure the US keeps standing between them and China. They are teaching us some of it though, and we’ve been building fabs to make them here in the US for years. Biden got that ball rolling.

[–] cristo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Photolithography itself was invented in the US a while ago, but the company that perfect the manufacturing process that is used for modern chips is in either Belgium or Denmark iirc. That company just leases its machines to TSMC so it's entirely possible they could just move the machines to the USA. But that's my surface level understanding, I don't know for sure.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Netherlands, with key components (precision lenses) made in Germany. None of this could be made in the US in reasonable time.