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[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 94 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

They did Bernie fucking dirty in 2016.

Then Biden knew he could run on name recognition alone and trounce Bernie in 2020. He knew people were pining for the Obama days and played off that nostalgia.

Fuck Hillary Clinton, fuck Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Kamala Harris is okay, fuck Joe Biden, and fuck the DNC. There's no reason they shouldn't run a progressive candidate, but it's clear they're allergic to winning elections.

Also, did anyone seem to notice that "weird" dropped out of campaign messaging in the last couple months following the nom? Can't help but think the DNC was behind that. Calling them weird was their kryptonite, even if Kamala Harris essentially said, "I'd do nothing different from Joe."

Joe Biden was a perfectly okay president. He was pretty invisible for the most part. He was a boring president. But he didn't bring the FIRE Bernie had in 2016 and 2020. He ran at a time when he KNEW he would win because Bernie was too far to the left for the DNC to be comfortable, and for that, I consider him a coward.

We didn't deserve a President Sanders, but holy shit did we ever NEED him. And yes, I am coping pretty hard right now.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone says they did Bernie dirty in 2016, but no one ever brings up how in 2020, the establishment dems all dropped out of the race in exchange for cabinet positions to rally around the elder statesman Biden—when Bernie was winning the primaries.

That, in my opinion, is far dirtier and a much bigger “fuck you” to leftists/progressives/humanists than 2016.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I brought that up, literally minutes ago. 100%

Biden was getting trounced. The party was embarrassed, so they made a bunch of backroom deals and sharpened their knives. Then Liz Warren stuck her blade in Sanders' back on live TV.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was just pointing out that you said they did Bernie dirty in 2016 and then said in 2020 Biden knew he could beat Bernie on name rec alone. I was just clarifying what I think was the bigger betrayal.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Totes, I wasn't disagreeing

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

The liberal elite would rather see a fascist dictatorship, than a progressive leftist democracy, as one of those endangers their wealth and power.