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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

3D printed guns are being used by fighters in Myanmar.

https://3dprint.com/302100/myanmar-rebels-rely-on-3d-printed-guns-to-fight-military-junta/amp/

They’re pretty important if you want to be anti-authoritarian.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Also pretty important if you want to supply white supremacist gangs in the US.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Many white supremacists ARE anti-authoritarian.

[–] Krzd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What? Most of them "back the blue" which is about as authoritarian as you can get

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In my experience, they tend to side with cops against minorities, but only to that extent. They tend to be the methy, gas-station-robber types who don't get on well with cops.

[–] mangaskahn@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So like most Authoritarians then? They're all for it until their side isn't in charge anymore.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

They are the cops. Look up just about every far-right protest in the past century and how they're given a police escort to and from the site. How the cops look the other way when there is right wing started violence and there is grave injury or death. How white supremicist cops that kill face unpaid time off way more than jail time.

These authoritarian right wingers are anti-authority to the point they want to exterminate all authority who keep them from violently suppressing anyone who doesn't want to oppress others. And they have to intimidate, cheat, lie, appoint other crooked liars because they'll never win the votes they need from a free electorate. The voting majority thinks they are wrong.

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[–] Belastend@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (7 children)

No, they arent. Theyre unhappy with the current authorities, but they simp hard for the authorities of the 50s and 60s, especially the southern authorities.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's 100% authoritarian to believe that "whites" are supreme.

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[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What? Don't they just go to Walmart?

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago

Walmart is too woke! Chick-Fil-A does it best! /s

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

But they already have all the guns?

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[–] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How is this relevant? They will still be able to watch YouTube videos about the topic like before, it’s just age restrictions for under 18

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Soon the only content left on Youtube will be AI generated ads for Ponzi schemes.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

We can only hope.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I woke up this morning thinking "I wonder what the 3D printing gun community thinks about stuff.", and I'm going to bed not giving a shit. Fuck these psychos.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I used to frequent the FOSSCAD IRC ages back as a teen. This started during the post-Liberator panic, there were talks about regulating 3D printers to not allow printing guns, etc. Designed a few things, never actually printed any of it myself, but some others did. Really got me into engineering before I exited the scene, led to actually pursuing an engineering career. Was surprised to see 3D printed gun videos so openly shared, it was pretty underground for ages there.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I used to run the 3D printing community on G+ at around 500k strong, (about 10k weekly active users according to Google's stats) and I ended up actually pissing off a lot of my European users because of this. My viewpoint on it, was as an engineering exercise -- it's an amazing thing. It's not advocating for guns, and guns aren't only used to kill other people. So I stood up for the guys posting about their engineering challenges, and their work making 3D printed parts for a machine with high impact loads and loads of cycling issues.

Unfortunately, it lost me some friends, like Gina Haubage and Tomas Sanladerer -- as they disagreed highly; and wanted to ban anyone posting firearms related 3D printing content.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

there is probably no point in fighting this sort of thing, but i wish we would engineer something else instead

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Projectiles are a part of human nature. We've always thrown spears, rocks, etc -- firearms are just an extension of our better understanding of the world. I know of barely anything else that uses explosive charges that is as widely applicable to the general public. Roofing nail guns? But that's such a niche subject, it's not something people are really worried about trying to make with 3D printing. Believe me, if I had a better engineering challenge for 3D printing, I'd be suggesting it. But nothing quite hits like containing an explosive charge, and utilizing the energy in a way that performs work without destroying itself.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

camera gear? experimental musical instruments? i think an idiot could make a list of things that aren't guns and don't suck

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Things that "don't suck" are far away from peak exciting.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Did you miss the qualifier "that uses explosive charges"? The engineering challenge is in the explosive part.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Absolutely, it's a fabulous engineering challenge, to make it work well on a hobbyist grade 3D printer with ordinary materials. Also a lesson in using the right tool for the right job (some parts are just better off milled or bought OtS)

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Third most popular video on the guy’s channel - a million views. A handgun that can shoot all its bullets in the blink of an eye.

30 years from now if 3D printers are unrestricted, will there be any point to gun control?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That seemed random, and it kinda was: uneducated(!) guess on how long it will take the technology to both develop and popularize to the point the average kindergarten massacre* is committed with a 3D printed gun.

@Voyajer@lemmy.world @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Is 30 years long enough for there to be a decent likelihood we’ll be able to print the switch and firearm from that video? Thanks for your responses, I can tell you know your stuff.


* to be clear, being forever upset about Sandy Hook has no bearing on my respect for responsible gun owners, presumably the vast majority

You can already easily manufacture your own firearm with a combination of 3D printers and some metal working tools. Or just buy the barrel pre made and that's 99% the effort.

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[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Neither the gun nor the switch is 3d printed in that video.

But to answer your question, you can make a firearm from actual trash if you're sufficiently motivated. Look at the different guns Abe's assassin made from a couple of years ago, he even made his own ammunition because of it's lack of availability in Japan. Is the point of gun control as it currently stands to limit access to firearms period or to limit their access to good and more easily available weapons? I would say it is realistically the latter, though crossbows and air rifles are completely legal for people who are barred from owning firearms to obtain and use which sort of invalidates that too.

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention that under US law black powder guns are not legally considered firearms.

While that's technically a loophole, it's left in place to allow poor people in rural areas to supplement their food budget with hunting even if they have a felony conviction.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

That switch is a federal offense unless you have a Class III SOT and have paid the prerequisite taxes. He explains it at 2:00.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (7 children)

People sitting at home 3D printing guns aren't happy? Who could have guessed.

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm guessing most people aren't happy.

Not just in the gun community but like everyone.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Some of those people might be extra unhappy.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (13 children)

“So guys getting blown up in trenches in Ukraine by drones? Ha, totally not age-restricted,” the creator said. “ Me firing a 3D printed pink glock that I made? Age-restricted. We don’t need kids watching that. We want kids watching people getting blown up by mines. Love it. Awesome.”

Guys missing the corpo bottom line.

Gun manufacturers have gotten sued by families of school shooting victims. Youtube runs the risk of getting dragged into court because little Billy sees the 3D printed pink glock, decides that he can make that, that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction (which includes Youtube, even if the odds of getting anything are minimal) like mushroom spores. That risk assessment doesn't exist for Ukraine war vids.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I suspect this is exactly right.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (7 children)

that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction

Frankly in such a situation not such instructions, and not even Billy's parents should be held primarily responsible, but bullies' parents.

Would reduce the amount of such cases quite a lot, not even talking about more healthy childhood for every human useful for civilization (bullies usually grow into pretty average types).

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (8 children)

More generally "gun control" is never about controlling the cops, military, MIC, etc. There's bi-partisan support for the state maintaining its monopoly on violence.

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[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 0 points 4 months ago

Lost profits for the gun industry.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Haha, private company, you can't do shit about it.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Is this why Ian McCollum's videos are getting altered? Over the years, he's had many historical deep-dives featuring firearms from the Murphy's auction house. In recent months, he's been re-uploading those videos to cover their logo with the word "Morphy's". Even though the auctions are long over, I suppose Google counts them as promoting sales.

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I remember something from "forgotten weapons" where he I think he talked about having to retroactively blur the auction house because he didn't work with them anymore or a change in their policy. Not a Google one, I think.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

A private company restricting what videos I can see is AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION when those videos involve GUNS! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! NO REGULATIONS!

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

DIY TIK UURR GINNNNS

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago

Rare Youtube W

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