I really don't get what the fuss over eating insects is all about, especially if they're ground into a fine powder. It's just another dead animal to eat.
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I don't know where you live, but here in France all the conspiracy theory folks have got the idea into their heads that they are already sneaking insects into our food. It is all part of the larger conspiracy theory that the government and the elite are going to impose a meat allowance, which will make the lower classes weaker and more prone to disease and blah blah blah. I don't know any more
my MIL is in deep though, she is a bit of an ultra-conservative type who thinks vaccines make you magnetic.
Moving on...
There is one minor issue, and that is that some people who are allergic to shellfish can have allergies to some insects.
Any deviation from the current norm inevitably ends up in conspiracy theories, most likely because it’s one of the most effective ways to avoid or delay change - aka enable the billionaire class to make as much money as long as possible.
Think about 15 minute cities, eating insects, covid vaccinations, eating soy, trans people existing, …
A lot of people are fundamentally afraid of change (or, more accurately, want everything to just remain normal), which the capital class gladly abuses to further their own interests.
Think about 15 minute cities, eating insects, covid vaccinations, eating soy, trans people existing, …
My MIL is "anti" all of those things, as well as anti-EV. She also believed for a week or so that the situation in Ukraine was a hoax.
A lot of people are fundamentally afraid of change
For real. I ate insects for the first time many years ago when Ynsect launched. A wonderfully crunchy snack. They gave me the whole 1kg bag because I was the only person who tried them.
People are afraid of what they don't understand. It's a tale as old as time
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"These products are garbage," he says. "We are not used to them, they are not part of the Mediterranean diet. And they could be a threat for people: we don't know what eating insects can do to our bodies.
As opposed to red meat, which we know causes health issues in large quantities...
People are afraid of change, I get it. The thought of eating bugs weirds me out too, but do it for a month or so and I'm sure it's fine.
It isn't like humans haven't been eating bugs for decades anyway. IMO they're just ignorant of the fact that they're already eating bugs inside processed food. Every bite you take could already contain some delicious bugs.
It isn’t like humans haven’t been eating bugs for decades anyway.
That's technically true. Hundreds of years (pdf warning) is, technically, countable in double-digit decades.
The famous Mediterranean diet did not include the ridiculous amount of meat and animal products that are so common today.
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It’s bonkers to me that people who eat “normal” meat are so opposed to eating insects. Without exception, it basically comes down to not wanting to try new things, which is often tied to conservatism and being scared of change in general.
It shouldn’t be surprising that the politicians fighting this are right wingers who are against this on a cultural level - aka being afraid of change.
It's simply disgusting, it's not political, it's gag inducing.
Disgust at eating bugs isn't political, but it's cultural. It's far from universal.
I grew up eating seafood but I still hate dealing with it if I have to remove shells and clean it. Telling people to suck it up and eat something they don't want to eat makes no sense to me.
Nobody is being forced to eat anything. The point is that people have an irrational revultion at the thought of eating insects.
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Do you like lobster or shrimp? They're basically bugs.
I like crab, bit I can't stand soft shell crab. It's a mouthfeel thing, and I expect a lot of insect food preparations are similar
No, insects are ground into a powder and essentially used like flour. You probably wouldn't even know you're eating it if someone didn't tell you. No mouth feel to speak of.
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Also other than the inherent disgust to bug there is also the fact that since bugs are so small animals they can't be cleaned and separeted to different parts of the animal. This means that part of what you eat is the intestines of the animal with all the fecal matter in it.
I simply don't want shit (or processed shit) in my food. Is that too big of an ask?
Like a lot of seafood then.
Large fishes are able to be cleaned so you can choose those.
Oh absolutely. That’s why I said “a lot of seafood” and not all seafood.
As a kid I was grossed out by ‘the black line’ on shrimp/prawns but these days I don’t care.
I guess wiping baby butts and picking up my dog’s crap has made me a bit more tolerant of these things. :D
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The industrial beef slaughterhouses don't exactly have a pristine track record of keeping shit out of the market either.
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Like I said
Without exception, it basically comes down to not wanting to try new things
Nothing about it is inherently icky. You’re just not used to the idea and therefore don’t want to try it.
Also, you’ve most likely consumed insects before, because they are also used in food colouring.
I'm not necessarily accustomed to eating insects... but even the packaged/processed foods we have today are allowed to be a certain percentage of hair/bug/mouse-poop so that it doesn't become impossible to produce legal food :)
I have tried it for the novelty but I see no reason to make it part of my diet. It is disgusting to me and getting used to it would take a lot of time and suffering, for what reason? I've been a vegetarian before, I'd rather eat peas than insects.
for you and me perhaps, not all feel the same
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For most people, eating bugs is only natural.
So, while we globally enjoy this heat wave, most of us hoping for lower temperatures. While some discuss the political aspect of this, which really is large, already established, economic interests resisting alternatives. I am just going to quote something near the end of the article.
Insect farming is arguably much more efficient than cattle production. One hundred pounds (45 kilograms) of feed produces 10 pounds (4.5 kilograms) of beef, while the same amount of feed yields 45 pounds (20 kilograms) of cricket.
I find the thought of eating insects disgusting.
That said, I think outlawing or opposing it is so absurd it's ridiculous. Just like banning lab meat.
Don't want to eat it? Then don't. But why should you force that choice on others? I suspect this is nothing more than political shenanigans in most cases, just another topic with an easy gut answer to stir up the masses over nothing at all.
A lot of people argue over whether they would want to or not want to eat crickets and defend their decision. But if someone doesn't want to eat crickets, they do not need to defend themselves. Not wanting to is good enough.
People who say we should eat crickets should start eating animals brains, eyes, testicles, and intestines if they really want to push this on people.
You know, I eat most of these things but I wouldn't say that everyone should eat it. At least try it once to make their opinion on it.
Lots of people don't like the consistency and legs but when ground nobody recognise it.
Brains, eyes, testicles, and intestines are delicious. Head to the Southern US and get you a good plate of chitterlings.
Intellectually, I know there's nothing wrong with eating insects, they're just another animal protein source, but I can't get past the "ick" factor.
I don’t understand how someone could be fine with eating “traditional” meat but be opposed to eating insects. The only reason
I've eaten and cooked with cricket flour! It's honestly no different than most powdered protein supplements, and has a mild nutty taste that is unnoticeable or pleasant. As the article mentions, it's great in pancakes and pastas! I expect that as climates and food availability changes, many more people will be including alternate protein sources in their foods!
Obligatory to each their own, etc. etc.
That being said I'm not sure who these insect burgers are for, or what problem they solve. If you acknowledge that diet is big part of climate change solutions, then why not go directly to plant-based burgers? It's not like crickets have anything in common with red meat in any way.
My cynical take is that it's just a way to "do the right thing" without agreeing with the vegans. Gotta eat dead animals.
I think that's a bad faith interpretation to imply that one eats animals exclusively because it being 'animals' is the point. Most people don't think about it, their priority is making their daily life as simple as possible. They just eat whatever tastes good and is easy to get. And the people pushing for eating insects are thinking about it; they just have different priorities; they're trying to make environmentally-sustainable food easier to get.
Insects are still a far better choice for protein. They don't take remotely the amount of land or water that soy crops do, and they can be grown in areas of the world that don't have as much freshwater. They can be fed off scraps and organic material that are waste to us. They also have a high return yield; they're not being lost to droughts/weather/pests at the rate crops (especially organic) are. I'd posit that an insect-inclusive diet is probably more environmentally-friendly than the modern vegan diet is.
Humans are evolved omnivores. It's both possible and noble to have an organic and herbivorous diet that meets your basic needs, but it's difficult, often inaccessible, expensive; and it takes up huge amounts of land to grow the kind of crops needed (especially if much of them are lost to pests). Soy demands a lot of water, and avocados have been priced out of reach of the impoverished Central Americans they used to cheaply feed. Whether plant or animal, we are only alive by consuming life. There is no diet without some harm to somebody somewhere. Most vegan diets are too expensive (or unavailable), and are part of the deforestation for soy plantations overseas.
Ultimately now that principles have become a part of how we consume (and not just necessity, availability, effort etc), any philosophy requires compromise. If one's primary concern is freshwater, the carbon cycle, deforestation for cropland, nutrition density, local food-chain, animal suffrage, animal consent, organic, local-grown, seasonal, etc... It's not possible to follow them all, and it's not reasonable to expect everybody choose a single specific one.
I have a preference towards attainable and environmentally-sustainable eating, which means that eating crickets (and mushrooms, yum) is less harmful ecologically than eating soy (deforestation, water), and far less harmful than cattle (magnitudes worse than any other livestock). I also avoid palm oil products (deforestation). I don't disagree with any vegetarians or vegans who chose other principles; it's excellent that humans are becoming increasingly mindful of what we choose to eat. We just have different priorities.
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I had deep fried grasshoppers in Mexico. Just imagine eating a handful of popcorn with some peanuts. Same texture, more or less same taste. I did finish the plate and did not gag at all. I would't go out of my way to order it, but I wouldn't say no if it was offered again.
On the same trip, I tried a live beetle and OMG, it was disgusting beyond belief. Just think some awful chemical taste. Unfortunately that's the reality for some desperately poor people in less developed nations.
"These products are garbage," he says. "We are not used to them, they are not part of the Mediterranean diet. And they could be a threat for people: we don't know what eating insects can do to our bodies.
As opposed to red meat, which we know causes health issues in large quantities...
People are afraid of change, I get it. The thought of eating bugs weirds me out too, but do it for a month or so and I'm sure it's fine.
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