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I noticed that I tend to think something along the lines of

Everything will be okay. And even if it's not, that's okay too. You'll get though this my love

The love bit was something I've been trying intentionally to instill. I've heard that positive self-talk can improve well being.

What do you think or say to yourself during those harder times?

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[–] ChrisFhey@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I don’t have anything special really. Just an “It is what it is” and try to get through regardless.

[–] Bytyan@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something along the lines of "it is okay to be anxious, change is scary, but so is stagnation."

Alternatively, "How do you eat an entire elephant? One bite at a time."

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

The elephant one is one of my favorites. Brings some levity to what might otherwise be a serious situation.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I'm just practical-minded. "Shit happens. It's not going to get better by doing nothing."

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

My dad says when you feel depressed the worst thing to do is lie down.

[–] gaydarless@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Usually something like, "This too shall pass" or "The only constant is change." Reminding myself of the impermanence of every situation makes present difficulties bearable.

What also helps me is the prospect of emerging on the other side of the situation as someone with more experience, more self-understanding, and greater resilience. Those traits are high on my list of personal values.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

“If I stop moving it will get worse”

As in, pain is literally dampened by dopamine, and dopamine comes when you move, so it hurts less when you move.

Like I’ve encountered some serious monsters in this life, that came as a result of procrastination. I’ve experienced hunger, violence, and disease that all came my way because I froze with fear and uncertainty.

As Confucius says: “It does not matter how slow you go, so long as you do not stop.”

It’s so hard to believe, but I remind myself that there is an almost magical barrier in front of me. It’s like an Indians Jones illusion. It looks like hell in front of me. But if I step into it willingly, it becomes heaven.

Like a door, and through the door is your living room, but you know when you step through it you’ll be in Narnia or something. A magical/hologram projecting doorway, that looks like it leads to Place A but actually leads to Place B, is the best analogy for my mind.

The reality I’m pointing at with the analogy is that leaning into it is the only way to make the pain stop. Because if you run from it, it chases you.

I was lucky to learn this in some long meditation retreats. It’s always about day 3 or 4 that I realize the only way I’m going to stay sane is if I actually meditate. And even though it’s sitting still literally, it’s the willing engagement with the thing I’m trying to avoid that makes it bearable. “The wisdom of no escape” is what Pema Chodron calls that, I think.

Somebody else once called it “Leap like a tiger while sitting”. That tiger’s predator face and posture is about as raw an expression of dopamine as could ever exist. And you get that dopamine rush, that cessation of the suffering, that only go straight ten thousand years try try try direction, when you stop trying to distract yourself with thoughts and accept that you’re there in the meditation hall and nothing is going to happen to relieve you of that.

It isn’t pretty, but it is beautiful: If you stop and cower, everything gets worse.

These were the words I used when discussing an upcoming potential termination,

"But the person I'll be on the other side of [this crisis of maybe termination] will be no more absolutely or permanently diminished than the one I became after any other of the subjectively substantial life-changing crises."

I've lived through some pretty painful shit. I feel quite angry about the misery I consider my life to currently be, but I still choose to live. With these words I was explaining that this "disaster" couldn't be any more miserable than the sundry other miseries I've learned to live with. The consequences of this "crisis" may absolutely be something I will hate deeply and bitterly, but I doubt it's going to be the straw that gets me to break this camel's back.

[–] livus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

" Fall down 7 times, stand up 8 times."

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

It sounds ridiculous, but I always tell myself "What can you do when you live in a shoe? Move down the block, live in a sock."

The absurdity of it helps me deal with the absurdity of the world.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly? Something my little brother shared with me from our childhood. Apparently, it was during a hard time in his high school years. He came to me for advice, and what did I say?

"Life is pain. Get a helmet, Princess."

I have no recollection of this, but he swears by it and says that it's gotten him through some seriously rough times ever since, so I've started saying it to myself as well. Seems to work decently enough, and I like knowing that younger me had a supportive effect on the little bro like that. 🤗🥰

[–] sociablefish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is that second part a reference to something or what is it?

Best guess, I think the whole thing was a riff on the line from The Princess Bride, actually. 🤓

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yes exists.

[–] lynny@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remind myself of how awful a person I am and that the suffering I'm going through is not anywhere near what I deserve.

I give thanks to God that, for whatever reason, I'm given a better existence than someone like me should ever have.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Almost the same, but I give thanks that my conscience is being scoured clean by the pain.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That's so dark - doesn't sound healthy.

But interesting that it works for you. Thank you for sharing

[–] cccc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I used to be pretty negative and aggressive until I realised that if I talked to anyone else the way talked to myself I would get hit.

Now I’m simple and encouraging. Generally a nice little “come on” followed by a simple “you’ll get through it”, “not long now”, “you can do it”, “it’ll be alright”. That sort of thing. If I ever had a coach for anything that’s how I’d want to be pushed.

Life is like a long running tv show. Some previous seasons were awesome. This one sucks but I have to stay around to find out what happens next.
Doesn't matter how bad it currently is, the curiosity to see which twist it pulls next is stronger.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is a moment. Take it bird by bird.

[–] banana_meccanica@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sometimes I do positive self talk, but will not work without some basic attitude. And that is the selfishness, brutal and cruel. So during hardest and darkest time the positivy have actually a scary light and I hope to never be tested by someone in the future.

[–] smstnitc@lemmy2.addictmud.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'kill me"

I say that a lot. Usually when I'm alone and frustrated, tired, in physical or emotional pain...

I don't want to die. What I'm saying is "make whatever is causing the current situation to suck to stop". It tends to be cathartic, and occasionally leads me to thinking about how to fix the situation myself.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if we killed you and then saved the few cells that survived longest and cloned you from them and kept doing that until you had skin tougher than diamonds and super strength and an unquenchable thirst for blood?

[–] smstnitc@lemmy2.addictmud.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Subject consent confirmed. Equipment has been ordered and is en route. ETA 15 years.

Congratulations to your future self, and thank you for choosing Doomsday Evolutionary Solutions.

[–] Gatsby@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Its really unhealthy but it's an intrusive thought. I just imagine like supporting my full weight by hooks on my veins. Like, just somehow holding my full weight by the veins in my arms specifically. Then I'm like, fuck. It could be so much worse than it is now. Its been a reoccurring thought for years in the harder times. Now it kinda makes me feel better in a way.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know a lot of you don’t like hearing from the bible, but one line always comes to me: “This is the day that the Lord has made”.

I don’t know exactly what this means, but it gives me a sort of FOMO that gets me moving. Like, this day is some seriously interesting and deep shit if I want to get into it.

Sort of like if a friend offers me some wine to taste and Im like “nah I don’t feel like tasting wine right now” and he’s like “This is one of three bottles made by the master vintner Jacque Le’Somnamelier and it’s $50k a bottle and won awards in fifteen countries in blind taste tests”.

It’s like “doesn’t matter if you aren’t in the mood; you don’t want to miss this”.

[–] sociablefish@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. where in the bible does it say "This is the day that the Lord has made", give me an answer or I call bs
  2. “doesn’t matter if you aren’t in the mood; you don’t want to miss this” until you realize that all wine sucks ass
[–] RadDevon@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

For uncertainty:

  • Try to imagine the worst thing that could happen. Usually, it's not catastrophic enough to warrant the anxiety you feel about it.
  • Figure out all the levers you can pull on to make things go your way. When there's uncertainty, that means there are big factors you can't control, but there are usually still some factors you can control.

For going through a hard time:

  • Think about another hard time you've gone through that seems like it's now in the very distant past. Someday, this thing will feel that distant too.
[–] rusfairfax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The chief task in life is simply this: to identify and separate matters so that I can say clearly to myself which are externals not under my control, and which have to do with the choices I actually control. Where then do I look for good and evil? Not to uncontrollable externals, but within myself to the choices that are my own. (Epictetus, Discourses 2.5.4–5).

I always go back to this task: is this “bad” situation something that I can control? If not, let it go - it is neither good nor bad. If yes, then how? Do the “how”. The “how” may be specific actions or they may be about controlling how I perceive the situation. If I perceive the situation negatively, work out how to perceive the situation positively. eg. Losing a job may be viewed as bad because of money issues or career issues but could be viewed positively as an opportunity to pursue passions. Perceptions are controllable so bend them to positive constructive ends.

[–] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 2 points 1 year ago

“I won’t always feel this way”

[–] Kadjiis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you’re knee deep in shit, the only way to get out is to keep walking.

[–] Fthisguy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's all going to work out, one way or another.

[–] ghostwolf@lemmy.fakeplastictrees.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Life wasn't always that bad, hence there's no reason for it to stay bad in the future."

Of course, this won't work with something like incurable cancer. But most things we face are temporary. Even life.

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