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Peter Navarro wants to increase pressure on country that Donald Trump has threatened to annex

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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

If they're going loose an eye, it seems likely it'll be the orange one.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is great news for Canadians, meaning they'll be free from dragnet surveilance, as the five eyes monitoring system relies on other countries to spy on their citizens for them as a legal loophole.

Way to go trump, keep going, dismantle the five eyes entirely.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 17 points 2 days ago

Oh, no!

-Vladimir, stroking his white cat

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Huh? The other 4 can still spy on Canadians. They just won't share the info with Canada.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So Canadian citizens are safe from prosecution then by their own government.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They can and will be prosecuted through legal means. As for illegal means, if it's a big enough deal you can bet the other 4 countries will accidentally leak the info.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah I dunno how anyone thinks this is a good thing. I mean, the destruction of the alliance wouldn’t be bad, but removing Canada from an existing one is just declaring info war.

This phrase is way overused, for good reason, but I’ll use it again: I fucking hate this timeline.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

as the five eyes monitoring system relies on other countries to spy on their citizens

But useful idiots kept warning about China spying on me through Huawei without evidence.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't make the mistake to think that reliance on China is not a security threat. It might not impact privacy, but at least from what I heard here, big network operators are unable to maintain their networks without support from the hardware vendors, and not just in the sense that they need updates, patches etc, but that the OEMs rather do everything and the providers just slap their label on it.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

You are right, USA being bad does not make China good. All this shows is USA was always bad. It's just mask off now. Every nation should be looking to independently secure their networks now. No one can be trusted. But if we are honest, it was always this way, the world just got complacent.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Now us has trump spying on them for russia

[–] oddsys@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Australia as well please, get us out of this stupid security pact

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US should be axed from the alliance at this point, honestly. No intel shared with us can be trusted to be secret, even to our 'enemies'.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't be surprised if filters are in place for sharing Intel

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Something tells me that an intelligence community alliance between the U.S., the U.K., and three former United Kingdom colonies could well do without the United States, just sayin'.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmao. Yes. By all means dismantle the giant multinational CIA of the west.

Great idea. Fantastic. Love to see it.

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s what Putin commands of his asset Trump.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

If what's good for Putin is also good for the people then I don't give a shit that it's good for Putin.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

First, US wanted UK out of five eyes. Now Canada. Pretty soon, it'll be one eye.

yep, the united states is the brown eye of the world

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Best thing Trump's ever done, if his team can do it.

Five eyes is why your government legally has real time data on everything you're doing regardless of local privacy laws.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Exactly.

They're not spying on their own citizens, that would be illegal. They're simply allowing other countries to spy on you (legal) and then they "share" data with each other.

The net result is every FVEY agency doing an end run around laws that exist to prevent government intelligence from spying on its own citizens.

Add in data brokers who buy all your data stolen by Facebook and Google and re-package it for sale and Big Brother can have all of the data that they would get from spying on you without being bothered by silly laws that prevent them from spying on you (they didn't, the UK did).

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I could have sworn I saw UK too, but can't find it anymore.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It was in response to the UK trying to get Apple to put a back door in their advanced encryption for all Apple customers, not just UK citizens.

I’m starting to think this Trump character isn’t on the up-and-up.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Gotta make room for Russia huh?

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

WHAT?? YES!!!