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[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He never actually meant it. Why does nobody get it? It's a distraction. Stop fuelling it. This headline is exactly what Trump wants.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 3 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago)

You don’t know that, and Project 2025 states that foreign affairs must be subject to national interests. The GOP is prioritizing access to strategic minerals as a long term goal. DT has stated the annex desire repeatedly and consistently.

At the least, the economic assault is not a distraction, and it is obviously the initial stage in an escalation. People are already affected, and pissed.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago

Why would anyone think twice about this ridiculous word fart from a demented rapist?

Move on, nothing to see here.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 53 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of these hypotheticals can be answered by "we'll just slaughter anyone who makes a fuss" because that's where our country's moral framework will be if we ever march troops across the border. Like an ultra nationalist fascist state is going to concern itself with old treaties and popular sentiments.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 29 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

From a Canadian prespective, we would commit all the war crimes we could against an invading force, especially one we could not fight a conventional war against and win.

Im talking sending American GIs home in unrecognizable condition.

I dont care what government is in power by then. Invade Canada and be prepared to die in horrible ways, mutilated, and sent back to your loved ones in chunks.

This is the only way we could win a war against the US and we would not hesitate to do it.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Realistically, we are so fucked. One single bomb on a highway or railway can completely decimate any one of our province's ability to move people or goods and perform services. Our border is too long and wild to be defendable. And they could probably take out our entire military logistics in a single night of bombings. All of this isn't even to mention that if they wanted to go all out insane they could make nuclear threats if the Canadian government doesn’t capitulate. I'm not saying we couldn't resist once occupied, it's just fucking hideous to think about.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago

Im referring to resistance. We dont stand a chance in a regular engagement.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 5 points 3 hours ago

You shouldn't hesitate. And some USians would like to join you in eradicating the fascists.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 10 points 6 hours ago

The Geneva checklist

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

That would be stupid. When Italians were conscripted to fight against British soldiers in Africa, most of them didn't even like Mussolini. So what did they do? The surrendered and sat the rest of the war out.

That wouldn't have happened if the allies had a policy of mutilating their prisoners.

Fascism is a hate movement, and hatred is self-destructive. You can't defeat an enemy with hatred you'll only destroy yourself.

Offer an out for those that want to sit it out. Those that won't, are targets that need to be eliminated. Not a target of your fucked up torture fantasies.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago

Nah. If Americans invade its open season. No mercy.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

To be clear, you think there would be an actual war with any safe space to store prisoners? The US would roll over Canada's military in any open conflict, and crush any official bases. Any war would be entirely guerilla warfare, in which case taking prisoners is entirely unrealistic

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

Yep, occupied territory doesn’t have much opportunity for holding defectors, because it can be hard to prevent infiltration. Behind front lines is different though.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I vote for a trial where we test Canada taking the Western states.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 9 points 6 hours ago

...and the Northeast too, please.

[–] marathon@thelemmy.club 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

That would be cool, especially California, then we'd have somewhere warm to visit. LOL

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 6 points 3 hours ago

Um… you can't take California without also taking us in Oregon and Washington with you!

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's all about perspective...Live in Manitoba or Saskatchewan for awhile and virtually everywhere is warm to visit.

(Ok maybe I'm still a little salty about the -40 temps and my pipes freezing three times this winter.)

[–] marathon@thelemmy.club 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Hey even us 'soft' Torontonians had windchill at that temp several times this season. And snow, helluva lot this year too, almost like Buffalo. 😂

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The bonus is that kind of weather makes us appreciate the warmers days that much more.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

It's why we can walk around in shorts when it's 8C (46F) outside.

[–] fiendishplan@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

What about going the other way, we take up the metric system and coins for our 1 and 2 dollars instead of paper bills?

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 minutes ago

The U.S. already uses the metric system in strategic areas like the military, space exploration and scientific research.

It would be quite cost prohibitive to replace all the road signs so we’re keeping the imperial system for day to day stuff.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

We've tried dollar coins a couple times.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 3 points 3 hours ago

But never with taking away the bills. Get rid if the bills and force the coins and voilà.

[–] gheesh@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't dollar coins used in the US? Because I've used them in dollarized economies (e.g. Ecuador) and I assumed they were fairly standard everywhere.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

We have them but they're somewhat uncommon. I needed three for a project recently and had to go well out of my way to find them

[–] marathon@thelemmy.club 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

In terms of the metric system, just tell Americans that they're still using the occupier's system (British redcoats). 😉

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh, we're not even. We're using the US customary system, which uses the British words but aren't the same values as British Imperial values. They're actually pegged to the metric system, so if the definition of a kilometer changed, so would the definition of a mile.

We're using metric with extra steps. Not to mention certain products are already in metric, and everything else has the metric on it already.

[–] marathon@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh, that's interesting.

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 11 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

The most disturbing part is that everyone is still discussing it.

You give him power by taking his mouth diarrhea as something more than just that.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 39 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Enough of this. Nobody took him seriously in 2015 and we got what we got. You're not going to head him off by talking or not talking about him.

Trump does not have a sense of humor or a long-term tactical mindset. He speaks whatever is on his incomprehensibly selfish mind. When he says over and over and over again that he could run for a 3rd term, he means it. When he says over and over and over again that he thinks Canada should be annexed, he means it.

[–] robbinhood@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Thank you. It's just so f'ing baffling how many people still think the right approach to Trump is to underestimate, ignore, or otherwise write him off. We know what happens when we do that. This lesson has been taught to us time and time again and it's carried Trump to the White House twice.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This whole thing came out of accidentally calling Trudeau 'govenor'. Trump made a simple mistake, but it's the reaction he got that caused this to keep going. Trump is a bully and bullies thrive on getting reactions. It could have been stopped early if we ignored his dumb ass then, but now it is too late and we need to show strength to get him to back down.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

No, it didn't. This whole thing came out of Trump randomly deciding to punish Canada with huge tariffs for no apparent reason* and he made the insinuations against Canada's sovereignty in furtherance of that.

(* actually, to manufacture casus belli)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Well it's hard to know for sure when trying to figure out the motivation of a crazy person, but it's probably a combo of wanting to change things on maps, thinking tariffs are a good replacement for having any kind of taxes on the wealthy, wanting Canadian resources for free, not understanding what a trade deficit is, and of course being obsessed with money. Also he probably has a grudge against Canada because Trudeau made fun of him and he's a small and petty man that's been given power.

There's also wanting to emulate his buddies Putin and Xi.

[–] marathon@thelemmy.club 5 points 8 hours ago

My opinion is that Trump negotiates this way - Ask for something outlandish and breathe a sigh of relief when he settles for something less. Gets press — but you're right about power. However the news being the way it is on a continuous cycle, content is needed. He understands that.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

You feed his mouth diarrhea back to him. Waterboard his face with it.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 5 points 9 hours ago

Don’t give a reason, they’ll just say it’s not a problem. Just say no

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Ignore border....done. No big deal. Lol. But why? Because an idiot wants to ruin another country? I much rather wait for better times like when we obtain similar health benefits maybe?