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[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

It's a trap, Elon did this to his workers and never paid

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hope you all enjoyed government services. You're not getting any more.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

At least not from the Federal government.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"A senior administration official told NBC News that they expect 5%-10% of the federal workforce to quit, which, they estimate, could lead to around $100 billion in savings."

If they quit now, and are paid for another 8 months, how does that save any money?

Similarly, if they quit and need to be replaced, you're going to spend more money hiring and training the replacement, so for 8 months you're paying double salary, one for the person who quit and one for their replacement...

[–] Forester@pawb.social 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's hilarious you think they will be replacing them

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Look at Musk and Twitter, same pattern.

  1. Fire everyone.
  2. Oh, shit!
  3. Pleasecomebackpleasecomeback
[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  1. Sue them back

5)H1B slaves

Bold of you to assume he cares enough to want to hire people back when everything burns

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh they'll be replaced, with "private" workers supplied by Musk, etc.

The private "workers" will be AI or cheaply paid foreign workers.

They will be incapable of doing the job, not because they are incompetent, but because they were the lowest bid and lied.

After 2+ years of doing nothing they'll need to be replaced by more workers. The government can't function without them, so we'll hire twice as many, still paying less than the average American and pocketing the remainder.

After 4+ years, assuming the administration leaves, they'll all be fired by the new administration and Americans will be brought in. They'll have to do 4+ years worth of backlog plus the current job. After these 4 years they be deemed as incompetent and we'll start the whole cycle over again.

I honestly see this as more tree-shaking. It gives "disloyal" folks a way select themselves out, and provides a lot of empty seats to fill with "their" people.

Combined with the Section F stuff, I think this will also have a net negative impact to the economy of the greater DC-metro area. Yanno, those people that voted against Trump in the election. It's hard to not see all this as punitive.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Stealing what someone else said in the other thread: It is 7 months pay OR $25k whichever is LOWER. Watch as Trump misrepresents it as whichever is HIGHER.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/voluntary-separation-incentive-payments/

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unless someone is literally about to start a new job in two weeks anyway, why the hell would they take such a pitiful buyout? $25k is jack shit these days especially when the cost is your entire livelyhood.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s on the lower end - but 4 weeks severance isn’t uncommon in the corporate world - so 25k isn’t terrible.

It is when your replacement is someone with undying loyalty to a fascist dictator. It's not about efficiency, it's about loyalty and ideology. The more people leave, the more powerful ~~Trump Musk~~ Trusk becomes.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

Also it prevents them from joining another government position for 5 years or they have to repay it before they start the job

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and the funds probably have to be allocated by congress.. as it is they and NOT a diaper-wearing buffoon in lifted shoes, that controls the 'purse'.

even the maga nuts in congress should be pissed as hell at lord diaper's unconstitutional power and money grab.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Might have to look at that though, it's possible once the funds have been allocated to a department Congress extra less control over how there are used. As long as there's some loophole where the money can be spent on severance, and it doesn't cost more money than was allocated for the year(how can it? It's just paying people for not working)

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago

This is what it looks like when some of the richest minds that russia can buy brainstorm ways to damage the US.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

These people aren't going to get any money.

If you don't have another job lined up don't quit your job

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It'd be funny if every single one of them took it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apart from all the people who will suffer and possibly die from the lack of social services.

Because I am guessing this offer doesn't go to people involved in, for example, leasing federal land to oil drillers.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 days ago

Apart from all the people who will suffer and possibly die from the lack of social services.

People will suffer and die due to Trump's destruction of the country's infrastructure.

If all federal workers hypothetically quit, everybody in the US would sudenly realize very directly and immediately the disaster Trump has created and might decide to topple him and his henchmen.

But realistically they won't. So federal services wil slowly worsen and people will suffer more and more without doing anything about it, like the proverbial slowly-boiled frog.

That's how all dictatorships entrench themselves: things get slowly worse, but slowly enough that people don't want to take up arms, until it's too late to take up arms.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe other nations should consider giving a tip, to entice them further. Just throwing around ideas

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

It's not a buyout. They can continue to WFH until September if they swear to resign. That's not a buyout, that's just continuing to work until you resign in the future. It also doesn't guarantee them their jobs, just that they won't be fired for not returning to the office (which is something the administration will probably going to have a hard time doing).

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Paying people not to work? Sounds like the Department Of Government Efficiency at work

Art of the fuck up

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

"Fellas, it's been good to know ya"

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This includes members of the military im sure.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It does not.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Uh. Without regard to department?

I mean, okay, if more people resign in department A than B, to some degree you can transfer people, but it's not like there's some generic "federal employee" skillset.

EDIT: I guess if too many people did leave in one area, that you could re-hire there, and eight months severance isn't actually that large. I guess if someone were that on-the-edge about their job, it might not be that big a deal anyway.

Maybe it's a standard practice in business layoffs. Not familiar with practice there. You'd rather have people on the edge of leaving leave then people that want to stay.

I'm also kind of wondering if there are any jobs that hire full-time for limited periods of time, like maybe a Census poll worker. Like, if the government only planned to hire someone for three months and he just extended an offer for eight months severance if they walk out the door, that may wind up being a little awkward.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

FTS. They got the best benefits. We need them to stay and just lay low. For all our sakes.

[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

With the bills proposed by the house right now federal workers won't have great benefits for long. Benefits are better on the county level in many cases already.