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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 62 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Trump’s order also indicated that his Justice Department may seek to expand the use of the death penalty, so that it can apply to crimes beyond murder. The directive orders the U.S. attorney general to “pursue the death penalty for all crimes of a severity demanding its use.”

Like being trans? Or gay? Or Communist? Or Socialist? Or Democrat?

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

Treason includes the death penalty but isn't Treason per the Supreme Court if your name ends in UMP.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

trump also pardoned 1200 traitors

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How about multiple offenses?

I say once you rack up about 30 felonies, you're an incorrigible offender and a detriment to the rest of society.

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

or met a highwaymen and instead of being robbed by traffic ticket decides to be Judge Dreed.

or just look at someone funny

or just be a random actor chosen to pretend to be the perp.

or it might be a Tuesday

or might have woken up cranky

or has domestic issues.

or just for the kicks

or received this list and decided to try one of each. And then go thru the list every day. And then get each of his friend to go thru it multiple times a day.

[–] zib@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

This is gonna lead to things getting a whole lot worse for everyone. If the punishment for literally anything they happen to decide is a crime can be death, that leaves people with absolutely no reason not to fight back violently. Not like the punishment could get any worse.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Could mean anything, or nothing at all

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, the explicit ones are for killing a cop or being an immigrant, for which he knows he will have wide support among Democrats.

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Although you spin it, it doesn't need to be spun.

US gov't cannot be trusted to make the ultimate decision to kill someone.

Trump of all people should know this.

As commander in chief, he can order the military to kill people. Having the Just-us department do it is unnecessary. But then those deaths are on him. If the Just-Us department does it, it was out of his hands.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

The "pro life" crowd everybody (it's always been about control)

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Biden could have pardoned everyone on federal death row.

[–] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Absolutely, he did pardon the vast majority of them, but the deaths of the remaining are on his hands, especially for someone who "doesn't believe in the death penalty". I haven't looked into the specifics of the 3 people he didn't pardon, but no matter what they did life in prison makes more sense than executing them in the richest country on the planet.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Two Mass murdering Nazis and the Boston Bomber. I'm not really for the death penalty either, I am however for hanging Nazis. So you know win some lose some

[–] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I still wouldn't advocate for executing them, obviously they should not be let back into society, but I really don't see the point in killing them, it doesn't change what they did, but as human beings they should at least have the right to live even though they denied that from other people.

I think it just feels worse in this hyper-capitalistic society, that everyone else is out working while they are "taken care of" by the state, but I think the better answer to that would be to create a society that isn't so dire, that it doesn't seem like prisoners are getting free handouts, as opposed to just killing the prisoners, as "it isn't fair they get to live off the taxes of their victims".

I probably wouldn't go to a protest of their execution, I probably also wouldn't protest people killing CEOs, just in terms of the operations of a state, I don't think corporal punishment is ever worth it currently.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He was just too busy pardoning his cousins or whatever

Couldn't be helped

Ah well

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In my opinion Trump wants a way to punish anyone with death that questions his rule.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago