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[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok, so imagine that you're a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you're going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?

So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn't, that Musk doesn't even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he's grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn't vote for him.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Smart? He only has enough money to buy smart ~~slaves~~ employees.

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[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I vote for a rebrand of MAGA: Make America Go Aryan.

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Do you mean that Iran (translates to the land of the Aryans) should govern the USA? Or do you hint towards the Nazi race theories? But I thinkt the only Trump child that could be considered "Nazi approved Aryan" is Tiffany Trump, the others are all half slavic and thus considered sub-humans.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis’ ascent. It’s a terrifying parallel for today

Leading Civil Rights Lawyer Shows 20 Ways Trump Is Copying Hitler's Early Rhetoric and Policies

Here's the list from that second article. Article goes into detail for each.

  1. Neither was elected by a majority. (not relevant now this was 2019)

  2. Both found direct communication channels to their base.

  3. Both blame others and divide on racial lines.

  4. Both relentlessly demonize opponents.

  5. They unceasingly attack objective truth.

  6. They relentlessly attack mainstream media.

  7. Their attacks on truth include science.

  8. Their lies blur reality--and supporters spread them.

  9. Both orchestrated mass rallies to show status.

  10. They embrace extreme nationalism.

  11. Both made closing borders a centerpiece.

  12. They embraced mass detention and deportations.

  13. Both used borders to protect selected industries.

  14. They cemented their rule by enriching elites.

  15. Both rejected international norms.

  16. They attack domestic democratic processes.

  17. Both attack the judiciary and rule of law.

  18. Both glorify the military and demand loyalty oaths.

  19. They proclaim unchecked power.

  20. Both relegate women to subordinate roles.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

CNN is already sane-washing this, referring to Musk's "odd gesture."

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (11 children)

The ADL said it wasn't a Nazi salute, for what it's worth.

[–] Ruorc@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

And AOC called them out for downplaying it as well.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

ADL = Anti Democracy League in this case, maybe in others, but definitely in this one.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Also known as the Apartheid Defense League

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It was bizarre reading that

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago
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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Which discredits them entirely

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Fuck the ADL: they run cover for genocidal Zionist settler colonialism.

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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cpdxzjw9p47o

Elon Musk's appearance at a Trump rally this afternoon is garnering significant attention online over a one-armed gesture.

He made the gesture while thanking supporters for contributing to Trump's victory. Musk thanked the crowd for "making it happen", before placing his right hand over his heart and then thrusting the same arm out into air straight ahead of him.

"My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilisation is assured," he said.

Several users on X, the social medial platform he owns, have likened the gesture to a Nazi salute.

Musk has since responded, posting on his social media site X: "Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is sooo tired."

I wish western journalists would have opted to become compost instead. Compost is useful.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Securing the future and a nazi salute, but we're not supposed to believe our lying eyes.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The real excuse from Elons fans is "It's just a joke." Or "He's trolling libs."

Which is almost as bad, even if true.

It reminds me of school bullies that would make cutting, abusive "jokes" and follow it up with "Just kidding, bruh" if it doesn’t land right. And these are some of the worst human beings I have ever personally encountered.

How can people worship something like that at such scale? Like, I wouldn’t even wish that on the most raging Nazi, it’s worse than breaking their jaw.

Another one I saw was "But Kamala Harris did it as well" which is just a frame and had to yet see an link to the video in question unlike when Elon Musk did it

[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's bad, there are fields where you shouldn't joke and politics is one of them.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

At first I thought it was blown out of proportion, too. After watching the video, I can only say that if he did that in Germany, he would have been arrested on stage. Let's see what topic-relatedly, profoundly knowledgeable Benito Mussolini, allegedly, had to say:

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Ah, ok, thanks Benito! Enjoy your fascism that you voted for, America. I hope those egg prices will go down (they won't).

[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I hope those egg prices will go down (they won't).

They might, since deregulation is another of Trump's plans. Then the producers can save money by not bothering to keep dangerous substances out of the food, or the water, or the air... and pass those "savings" on to the consumers.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and pass those “savings” on to the consumers.

More likely that they pocket those savings for extra profit and the prices stay the same.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey, but they didn't go up! 🥴

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That only works for so long before shit like the avian flu kills all the flocks.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

If you don't need to look for Avian flu, or stop selling eggs from sick Chickens, then cost savings can be passed on to customers, and no one will notice increased healthcare costs/deaths. Cheap eggs y'all.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Deregulating the industry while we're on the cusp of a bird flu epidemic and after pulling out of WHO. 💀

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[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 0 points 1 month ago

"Managed democracy sounds good" - Elon Musk

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That's an on the money quote

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maybe arrested and then let go without any consequences. These guys are too rich to have proper punishments.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

The normalization and defenses of it, the crying maga soyjack, has been coming from the the major media networks from what I have seen.

MAGA is stroking it.

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He is crying from happiness, until, as always, affects their family members.

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[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it’s probably a nazi. I don’t care how it looks or where it swims or even if it quacks.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they aren’t in 1940’s Germany supporting Hitler, they aren’t Nazis.

You can never use history as an example, don’t these people know that?

And comparisons are illegal.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

Steps like a goose.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I asked the Anti-Duckification League and they say he's a swan. You're misconstruing things and frankly we find it a bit weird that you'd read so far into such a banal hand gesture.

Now, if you'll excuse me, we need to get back to our primary goal of making the use of the phrase "From the River, To The Sea" a capital crime.

[–] soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

conspiracy theorists taking us for idiots, nothing new(, even if you're taking it quite farther than usual).

On the side of real stuff happening : D.Trump said a lot in his inauguration speech, and just put Cuba back on the terrorist states list, seems worth more discussion than your fantasies.

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