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I have a close friend that I've known 20 years who became obsessed with right-wing politics. even though I'm liberal, I don't make it my entire personality and life. But anyway... I was talking to him this morning casually like friends do.

Me: "Hey man. Do you have off today for MLK day?" Friend: "No, I have to work today." Me: "Damn, sorry to hear. I have off today since it's a company holiday." Friend: "Yeah, I work for a living. Guess that's the difference me and people who live in an ivory tower." Me: "Uhh I work for a living too. Idk why you're acting like I don't?" Friend: "I didn't mean you specifically. But you’re off and I’m not so it shows that you get to relax at least. You should be able to handle the truth lol. There's no shame in admitting that I'm a harder worker than everyone else. you shouldn't be so sensitive"

Honestly, he's not unique, either. I've met so many people who are conservative, obsessed with right-wing stuff, and they're all like this. They act like they're special and the whole world is lazy, "no one wants to work anymore" attitude.

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[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 183 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If you’ve known him for 20 years he should respect you enough that you can tell him he’s being a cunt. Coming from you it should mean something, and maybe he’ll take a look at himself. I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people but folks like that need to be called out.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (57 children)

I’m friends with some right wingers who are decent people.

?

"right wingers" or "decent people"

Choose one, because they are mutually exclusive.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You can still be charismatic, a good neighbor, someone who stands up for friends when things start getting rough, a caring person that worries about those around them, and still hold the most batshit insane political ideas. I happen to know multiple people like this.

People are complex, and plenty are good people who have been led to believe the most outlandish shit. They are gullible and don't put enough thought into what they accept as truth. It is just as attractive to people on our side of the fence to paint everyone else with broad assumptions. It is the nature of Evil, because evil is ultimately a boring thing that we all do every day without thinking about it.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think the difference is between our definitions of "decent people", because I don't think a person gets to be called "decent" simply because they can be nice, pleasant, thoughtful, or helpful to only the people who abide by their personal world views while actively trying to make life worse for people who don't meet their bigoted qualifications.

Yeah, they can sure seem like "decent people" if you're not on the receiving end of their bigoted ire.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 160 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The funniest thing about conservatives is how they'll complain the left are a bunch of snowflakes, but you say a single word like trans and they'll probably explode into a million pieces because you said a bad word that scares them.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was reading a standard celebrity obituary article the other day. It was an actor nobody really remembers and it mentioned his family and the shows he was on.

In the comments someone said something like:

I don't know why you had to mention his husband!!! Why does everything have to be so woke?

Sure, pal, if he had married a woman, everything would be ok, but since he had a husband, we need to pretend that he doesn't exist around you so you don't feel icky?

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mentioned COVID tests around my dad cause my brother was going to see my Aunt sick with an aggressive cancer. He exploded about how COVID is fake and the Flu will kill her too..... Shes sick with cancer, dude.... Shut the fuck up....

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[–] DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lol this same person once told me that he doesn't support LGBT or Black lives matter or any of that because he doesn't agree with those communities and thinks that they are hateful

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

They are hateful of him. And should be.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 112 points 1 week ago (2 children)

its the propaganda they ingest. they are constantly told that everyone brown or poor does nothing but live off the government teat. constantly . despite this being demonstrably not true.

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[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago

you shouldn’t be so sensitive

Imagine being so sensitive that someone else having a day off sends you into a insecure tirade about how hard you work. Ditch that loser. Life is too short.

Company holidays mean you're lazy? Bro needs to get a grip.

[–] pastel_de_airfryer@lemmy.eco.br 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like he's jealous that you are getting a day off and is trying to spin it as you being lazy

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The conservative people that run my job think they're funny or something. We get a the standard holidays off but if the 4th of July or whatever falls near a weekend they'll swap another holiday to make it a 4 day weekend.

The only holidays they "trade away" are MLK day and Juneteenth... Funny that.

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[–] phughes@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My brother, a right winger, brought his kids up to visit me last summer.

It was at the end of the week that he told me that I hardly work at all. I'm like: Yeah, I have fucking guests in my house. I was still at my desk when I wasn't trying to keep 2 teenaged girls entertained.

He moved his family 1000 miles away and 20 years later is lamenting that they have no relationship with the people he moved away from. (I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this lines up with the rise of "Family" talk from right wingers.) This same guy calls other people "Sheeple".

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 41 points 1 week ago

Sounds like him living 1,000 miles away is a good outcome.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why is an adutl man concerned about how much another person works...

Also working hard is not a virtue, it is an indicator of poor management

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

Typical conservative reply: it’s your fault you’re offended that I was an asshole.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

You've got it backwards. Toxic and aggressive people become conservatives (in Anglo countries) because it serves them emotionally.

Occasionally one is too queer to successfully do that, and have to find an alternate outlet, like stanning for North Korea or something.

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[–] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hate, insecurity, intolerance, and ignorance are the foundation of their ideology. I'm not proud of myself at all for this, but I got sucked into the pipeline when I was a young teen. However I am proud to say that I did fortunately manage to pull myself out of it and I'm now a socialist.

While I hate that I got sucked in, it does give me a lot of insight into why they are the way they are. They start by targeting common insecurities which they use to lure people in, and then they feed them lies while appealing to those insecurities. For example, I remember being a lonely teen and watching mgtow 🤮 videos and the gist of the videos was that if you joined their "movement" that you would get laid all the time, and of course that video was ridden with a shitload of misogyny and lies. Then from there it snowballs into more and more hatred and lies.

Conservatives are just sad, narcissistic losers who are incapable of understanding that people need to lift each other up rather than putting each other down. That's why conservatives like to brag, because they think putting others down is how they get lifted up.

Being knowledgeable is a good defence against their tactics since their lies become obvious and it quickly becomes evident that they are fools.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He is exploited and dumb enough to think being exploited makes him better.

Their bitterness comes from being exploited. The stupidity is in deluding themselves that they are hard workers instead of Luiging their boss.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Friend doesn't get a day off, complains about the "ivory tower" of those that get a holiday, instead of blaming his boss and/or company for being a souless machine grinding his bones to dust for 3 extra pennies that quarter.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Then proceeds to vote for the side that's telling them they're not working hard enough.

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[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a loser. I hate people like this. We are all working hard you fucking dunce. Get your head out of your ass.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I notice that those enamoured by the right are-- there is no other way to put it-- insecure. We all got insecurities, but I think the right has managed to tap that and groom them.

The thing with this attitude of feeling special that they work excessively is precisely the right has groomed them to be part of something bigger. And humans, but not all, naturally yearn for social acceptance and wanting to be part of something big. These folks feel that their contribution counts for something. The right has tapped that feeling, but for sinister purpose unfortunately. In the case of your friend, it just so happens that a fake wannabe right wing university, which shall not be named, has a video imploring viewers that work is good and that it is the ultimate goal. It makes you feel special. No buddy, the only person who you make feel special is yourself for grooming individuals to be mindless workers who will not question longer hours with no extra pay.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 week ago

Yeah, conservatives like to randomly plug phrases of propaganda like unfunny inside jokes. Depending on my relationship with them I do one of the following.

  1. Ignore if I'm not that close. Maybe roll my eyes a bit.
  2. Push back on it if we're in the context of world events/news/politics.
  3. If we're close enough, re-direct the culture war bullshit interjections with interjections of class war. If your friend sees it fit to just randomly call society lazy, you can also randomly call the upper capitalist class lazy government-teat sucking hoarders.
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

moist toxic

God damn slightly damp conservatives.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's not "why are they like this?" but rather "who has made them like this?"

Who has a vested interest in creating a generation of people who take a perverse personal pride in working themselves to death so somebody else can get rich? Hmm, tough one...

I wouldn't even mind if the ultra rich were doing something with that money, but they just hoard it. Elon Musk could have a giant fortress in the shape of a skull, but instead he just goes home and cheats at videogames. I can do that for next to nothing!

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What the fuck is he on about? Ivory towers? It's a fucking federal holiday for Christ's sake.

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[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of this dipshit I saw in a Starbucks once wearing one of those anti-welfare t shirts. He spent a good 20 minutes bragging to this poor young woman working the counter about how hard of a worker he is and that people on welfare are parasites.

When she asked him what he did, he sheepishly responded that he did a few hours a week of per diem work at UPS. She just rolled her eyes and asked him if he needed anything in that "buy something or get fuck out" tone.

After he left, she started talking to another employee about how much of a tool he was. The other coworker responded that he pulls this goofy anti-welfare ranting shit to try and impress new girls and that he actually lives with his parents and collects state aid himself.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Being a harder worker isn't something to be proud of, friend.

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[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago

I guarantee he is projecting how little he works on others. Every accusation these people make is a confession.

And yes, even the "why do you have to make it your entire personality?" is projection. As much of a cult as maggots are, I think the only real difference is trump is too stupid to use the usual double speak politicians were using before and the base that always was out for blood ate it up. He also gave them phrases and symbols to plaster over all their stuff.

Yet they will claim someone having a single pride sticker on their car or flag outside their house is "shoving it in their face" while they drive down the road with a 2 or more flags I their car, along with countless number stickers, and a house covered in at least a half dozen flags and signs.

And no, I'm not exaggerating. I see these trucks (always a shitty truck) and houses regularly where I currently live, and I'm fleeing in a month as I'm queer and one of their targets.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

"if your position is that you CHOSE a job that makes you work on MLK Day, that makes you a dumber worker".

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was vising a family over the weekend. I mentioned that the only reason I had time to make it over to their house to help them with some work this weekend was because I was off on Monday for MLK day.

Their response was to scoff and roll their eyes while sarcastically saying "mLk daY".

It's stereotypical yet anecdotal, but they stopped working in their 50s and moved around the country shopping for states that would grant them disability. Other than a short-term odd job here and there, they haven't had a job since. But yes, they are exactly the same folks that complain how nobody wants to work anymore and it's everyone else who is lazy.

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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The assertion that your friend is a harder worker might not ge true. I have had to work many holidays in retail because my job said I had to not because Im a harder worker.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is no better measure of your worth to a conservative than how many hours you are willing to work in support of the 1% becoming even richer.

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[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Religious conservatives are trained from childhood to unwaveringly believe things that can't be proven, and teaches that malice is the only acceptable way to get dopamine.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

you didn't ask him if he thinks for one fucking second that any of the shitheel CEO/executive suite trump fluffers he's generating revenue for are working today?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 week ago

They've been built up to get angry about specific topics in a way that bypasses critical thought.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

lol brainwashed as fuck. Who the fuck brags about being forced to work hard? Bet he doesn’t have anything to show for it. Not working hard and living a comfortable life is a bigger flex than breaking your back to earn money for the boss

Bet he thinks there is a reward at the end. Nope. Boss wil fuck him over and there is no heaven.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 20 points 1 week ago

Did he work on xmass and thanksgiving and 4th of july and memorial day and labor day or was in an ivory tower on those days and not a hard worker. does he take any days off. I mean if hes not working and other people are at any time then they are the hard workers. Im ok with not being a hard worker though. Im more of a work smarter type person but his type is good to.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Guy's a dumbass because he's taking it on the chin from his boss, acting like it's fine, and then attacking everybody except the assholes. What a little bitch.

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s just easier to hate.

People choose easy over ‘better’ as a rule.

…and, it’s just easier to hate and be angry than to work through the prejudices, and inner demons you may carry with you.

Inner work is much, MUCH harder to do. I have done some serious physical labour in my life, so I know what I’m comparing here (including the day in/day out of that life).

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[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

They're sad insecure people who try to find self worth by looking down on others, which is hard work for a bottom feeder

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