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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I will say I don't get quite the logic of being like:

"Yeah this countries spyware is bad so I'm running straight into the arms of this other countries spyware just to stick it to you original spyware!"

Instead of just, like, getting off the spyware.

It's like being robbed and pulling out a gun to shoot yourself before the robber can and throwing your wallet into a street.
Sure it spites the robber but they can just shrug and move on to a weirdo who isn't shooting themselves and they will probably just loot your pockets for spare change anyways.
Maybe I don't feel that drive to be social at all costs.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Most people do not care about digital privacy to the extent that they'll ever give anything up to achieve it. Online communities are not in any way representative of the general attitude towards these issues.

If I ask people whether they're willing to put a mic in their house to let me spy on everything they're saying they'll say no. If I say it'll also turn lights on and off and play despacito on demand the vast majority say yes. In isolation people prefer privacy, so long as it costs literally nothing. As long as they have to give up nothing. That's where we are, unfortunately.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago (28 children)

The government took away your brain damage app, so you protest installing blatant authoritarian spyware on your phone... truly a genuis giga-chad move that will own the guberment.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Our phones are full of blatant authoritarian spyware already. What's one more? I'd rather the CCP own my data than Meta or Microsoft anyways.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 23 minutes ago

Yeah nothing of an average person's phone comes close to tiktok. It a tally has arbitrary code execution it uses to essentily custom fit it's spying per user.

It's like saying "well I already have microplastics in me" and chugging a bottle of lead acetate.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 hours ago

The actual gigachad move: Leave your phone at home and go touch grass.

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 330 points 2 days ago (28 children)

The fact that people are ok with this blows my fucking mind. Corps literally normalised being buttfucked.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 77 points 1 day ago (45 children)

I'm pretty sure most people who are doing this are trying, in their own way, to make a point.

It wasn't about "national security". It was about a large digital meeting place where ideas could be shared, or feelings and frustrations at their government could be seen and felt by others who felt the same. Big Brother doesn't like that, unless it is on US Corporate Approved Social Media, where they can promptly shut you down, or get their algorithm to put post with specific keywords out of the eyes of as many as possible.

So, instead of creating actual data privacy laws, as they should have, they decided to attack TikTok, because Mark Zuckerburg got in front of congress during whatever case it was that brought his lizard ass in the room (maybe the Cambridge Analytica scandal?) and said that TikTok was more dangerous than his own platform.

There you go. It was never about "national security", as there were much better ways to handle that than banning one single app.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They did write data privacy laws when they banned TikTok. Read HR 815 Division H and Division I of 118th Congress, which is just HR 7520 and 7521 bundled into a larger bill.

The original text of HR 7520 is:

(a) Prohibition.—It shall be unlawful for a data broker to sell, license, rent, trade, transfer, release, disclose, provide access to, or otherwise make available personally identifiable sensitive data of a United States individual to—

(1) any foreign adversary country; or

(2) any entity that is controlled by a foreign adversary.

(b) Enforcement by Federal Trade Commission.—

(1) UNFAIR OR DECEPTIVE ACTS OR PRACTICES.—A violation of this section shall be treated as a violation of a rule defining an unfair or a deceptive act or practice under section 18(a)(1)(B) of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 57a(a)(1)(B)).

(2) POWERS OF COMMISSION.—

(A) IN GENERAL.—The Commission shall enforce this section in the same manner, by the same means, and with the same jurisdiction, powers, and duties as though all applicable terms and provisions of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.) were incorporated into and made a part of this section.

(B) PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES.—Any person who violates this section shall be subject to the penalties and entitled to the privileges and immunities provided in the Federal Trade Commission Act.

(3) AUTHORITY PRESERVED.—Nothing in this section may be construed to limit the authority of the Commission under any other provision of law.

Definition of Foreign Adversary:

"(4) FOREIGN ADVERSARY COUNTRY.—The term “foreign adversary country” means a country specified in section 4872(d)(2) of title 10, United States Code."

Which states:

"(2) Covered nation .— The term “covered nation” means— (A) the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea; (B) the People’s Republic of China; (C) the Russian Federation; and (D) the Islamic Republic of Iran."

But I think it also includes a few other countries, idk if this text is up to date.

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