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The Supreme Court's hearing of Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton signals potential limits on First Amendment protections for online pornography.

The case involves a Texas law mandating age verification for websites with "sexual material harmful to minors," challenging the 2004 Ashcroft v. ACLU precedent, which struck down similar laws under strict scrutiny.

Justices, citing the inadequacy of modern filtering tools, seemed inclined to weaken free speech protections, exploring standards like intermediate scrutiny.

The ruling could reshape online speech regulations, leaving adults’ access to sexual content uncertain while tightening restrictions for minors.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

I'm sorry, but I find this a bit hilarious. People need a break from that stuff anyway.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

My earliest memories of the internet was boobs, and then later a helicopter decapitation.

It's kind of annoying that so many id restrictions focus on porn. Maybe it's not normal for today's kids/teens to come across violent content, compared to people that mightve come across rotten, faces, 4chan, etc. back then.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't even act like the SCOTUS upholds the Constitution, they uphold the christian bible now. So unamerican.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

The constitution is just the imperial bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] Churlish_Witness@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (4 children)

it's so shocking that the right-wing's commitment to free speech was entirely performative and predicated on no principle whatsoever

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes.... Shocking... I am shocked

[–] Churlish_Witness@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Coincidentally, I just rewatched this the other night (for like the thousandth time). I feel like it gets more and more poignant (and TLJ's acting impresses me more) as I get older...

And it does kind of apply here. In the film, Jones' character is just at a loss as to "who the hell these people are" after witnessing their apparently nihilistic and seemingly random murder spree.

I feel that in my bones now. Who the fuck are these psychopaths?

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[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

SCOTUS working hard to install Taliban 2.0

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

We're going to see a lot more of these challenges to SCOTUS precedent in the coming years. The Dobbs decision was them stating loud and clear that they will find any excuse to justify their prefud8ced decisions.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Well, here we go. Hold onto your butts, this shit is going to get wild.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

This is why we gotta ban TikTok!!! \s

Seriously tho I can't believe the dummies who buy into this authoritarian garbage.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago

Noooo haha we we can't fix your real problems that you want us to fix because of how we think some witch hunter in the 1600s relates to the constitution, and politics is just hard and moves slow :(

Anyway, here, we shitcanned the constitution for something pretty much nobody asked for and won't actually fix anything. Enjoy <3

[–] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 day ago

You'd think they don't consider that decisions like this will create more Luigi's, ironically enough from their own base.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You gotta be a really profoundly uncomfortable, nervous human being to think of sex as bad.

What an absolute sign of weakness.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago

Or, and hear me out on this one, you're a member of a group, like various other groups, that want to control every aspect of human lives, including sex, to bind them to our little group forever so we can control them even more?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You gotta be a really profoundly uncomfortable, nervous human being

That's an interesting way to say "religious".

Project2025 and it's evangelical backers are a major driver of this prudishness.

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[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You don't have to think sex is bad to think porn is bad for children and teens.

This Texas law and others like it are bullshit, but making strawman arguments about them isn't helping anything.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ain't the point of a right that it's protected from the government?

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

there's still porn on usenet.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If we're banning content harmful to children why dont we start with Capitalist propoganda and religious indoctrination :3

[–] Skymt@feddit.nu 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And those brain washing shows on YouTube

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 158 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Notice how we're already asking past the sale with the tacit labeling of "sexual material harmful to minors," with the presupposed declaration that sexual material is automatically harmful to minors.

The all-consuming mission to look at boobies is essentially universal for all pubescent boys from about 12 all the way to the age of majority. This is well known, and none of us came off any the worse despite widespread availability of older brothers' back issues of Hustler, Usenet, dial-up BBS systems, and ultimately the world wide web.

If teens weren't naturally interested in sex where wouldn't been all them teenage pregnancies. Q.E.D.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The all-consuming mission to look at boobies is essentially universal for all pubescent boys from about 12 all the way to the age of majority.

Not true. Some boys also want to look at dicks.

[–] dion_starfire@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

And some genuinely could care less about looking at either.

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[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Kids are gonna start finding porn the old-fashioned way: randomly coming across discarded magazines at the park. That was my first experience.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago

Or torrents... It would be funny if this just ended up teaching new generations how to torrent.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good luck finding a magazine anywhere any more. I assume they can still find it online from random small websites, like in the old days.

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[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"Woods" or "Field" porn was surprising common. I was honestly surprised to hear that was so many of my friends (and my) introduction to porn.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Most people don't realize that porn reproduces naturally in the wild if given the proper habitat, etc.

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[–] esc27@lemmy.world 105 points 3 days ago (5 children)

So we can ban content that is claimed to be harmful to minors but not weapons that actually kill children...

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even in terms of speech, it's ridiculous to claim that boobs are more harmful than a social media diet of assholes claiming women or racial minorities aren't people.

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[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The vague threat of "think of the children maybe being exposed to sexual things" challenging our first amendment right but it becomes some huge debate if a woman is being harassed/stalked/threatened online.

**they are justififying destroying our rights for their feelings **

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I'm calling it right now. They use this as first amendment cover for TikTok.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think Epstein highlighted that there is a much bigger problem going on than some 15 year old looking up “mum gets railed by football team”.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Too bad he's not around to testify. They did a great job of murdering him behind bars.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago (18 children)

It’s just the first amendment.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Get ready for the slippery slope. Anything conservatives don’t want you to see or read will be placed behind an “identify yourself” firewall.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

And they will use the information they collect to blackmail you.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 70 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Define "sexual material." What about the minors who get sexual gratification from Linux installation media repository mirrors?

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[–] minnow@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What's taught in schools: the parents should have a say! Don't let the government decide what to teach our kids!

Books in libraries and content on the internet: the government must step in and make certain content illegal!

Of course, fascists don't care if they're hypocritical. They say whatever gives them the most power in any situation, so calling out hypocrisy won't stop them. It's still good to do, though.

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