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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 88 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wish, but I doubt it will be.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Something eventually will be. Meta will not last forever.

This one? Nah, probably not. Meta is undoubtedly going to censor, suppress, hide, and deprioritize posts about this. But someday it will.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yahoo just gradually died as people started slowly abandoning it.

The same can happen to Facebook, but it won’t die with a bang.

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This.

What eventually kills these platforms is "death by thousand cuts". Enshitification, controversies, legal problems will alienate users bit by bit. Competing services will then make some people visit less and less until they stop coming at all.

These platforms are competing for peoples attention/time which is finite resource.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But in addition to what happened to Yahoo, Meta’s platforms also use the network effect to keep users. Once the tide turns and the network effect is stronger elsewhere the userbase may quickly evaporate, like what happened to MySpace.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's already happening. Posts from my friends are seldom, and progressively less meaningful. Most are just shares of some dumbass sponsored content. Conversation is dead. But this is a big one, Facebook has AI users now that can keep up the appearance of a thriving site indefinitely, duping advertisers out of billions.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm dubious about that last one.

Advertisers have ways of measuring which ads are effective. I'm most familiar with how it works on Youtube, click on a link in a bio or use offer code AGGRAVATED to get 10% off your first purchase, and they can identify which creator they're sponsoring generated that sale. Part of the point of targeted advertising is avoid spending money to advertise to incompatible audiences.

"Hey look, Facebook has 4 billion users!" "Great. Here, we represent McDonald's, users who click this link will get coupons for combo meals. Run it in the United States." soon "The McDonald's ad was clicked on 94 billion times, yet the coupons from this campaign were redeemed in restaurants a total of 164 times nationwide. Can you explain to me how you achieved complete and total failure to sell cheap cheeseburgers to Americans?" "Yes I can, see, practically none of our active user accounts are owned or operated by organisms."

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I genuinely don't understand the business model they're going for here. Which means one of three things: 1. Meta knows something I don't know and this is going to work spectacularly, 2. It's one of those engineering decisions made by MBAs moments and it's going to come crashing down, or 3. it's an Enron moment and within 18 months the name of the crime they're committing is going to suddenly become a household phrase.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What makes you believe Friendica won’t surpass Facebook?

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

I do not think decentralized social media will ever grab the masses. It can be confusing, which server do I join? Why that one vs this one?

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because I have never even heard of friendica

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven’t heard of Lemmy until the api changes.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

And Reddit is still in no danger of being overtaken by Lemmy.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 55 points 2 weeks ago

Let’s hope so.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've noticed a significant change in my Facebook feed recently. It's almost all content creator content now, which I'm taking as a sign that my network is no longer posting there.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Bigger question. Honest question.

Why are YOU still there???

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Because Facebook killed enthusiast forums for most of my hobbies and everyone migrated to FB. Thats where the knowledge is.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 35 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Didn't happen to Twitter. Didn't happen to Reddit. Won't happen to Meta.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] naught101@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Kinda blows my mind that people think that shit is going to happen over night.. That's hundreds of millions of people..

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If Twitter hasn't had a mass exodus I'm not holding it hope for any other social media. The fact of the matter is the majority of the public just don't care.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean it kinda has. It wasn't an insta-kill but users have dropped dramatically and it's still dropping

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

https://www.demandsage.com/twitter-statistics/

Rebranded as “X” in July 2023 under Elon Musk’s leadership, the platform saw a 15% drop in monthly active users soon after. Despite this, with 611 million monthly active users...

"X" is doing just fine.

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Huh, a friendica post in the wild on the Lemmy.world front page. Cool!

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

You will see it more ;)

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Until you provide an easy solution for grandparents to watch their grandkids grow up, meta will have a captive generation and a half.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Group chats? They've replaced almost everything I used to use Facebook for.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

why prefix the hash tag with Hello? Isn't #QuitMeta better?

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[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Theres no app for us artists to post our art and get work other then instagram (or twitter but fuck that).

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yea i used it for a while a year it two ago and figured its not worth my time since it doesnt have a userbase or any thing to attract people to move to it

See my comment here https://slrpnk.net/comment/13170801

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you also using Pixelfed?

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, just like everybody else who isnt using it 😅 its stillll not on the app store after like 6 years and now the dev is working on Loops. Also theres no decent discovery with only the single chronological feed. Bluesky and an instagram clone using the at protocol will be easier for us to migrate to because feeds help discovery a ton.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There’s an official app for Pixelfed on iOS and Android.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are people who offer work for artists using Pixelfed?

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Betteridge's Law applies here.

[–] techt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

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[–] x3x3@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Good riddance. Sadly I think it will take another generation before the boomers wake up

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think it will take another generation before the boomers ~~wake up~~ die.

FTFY

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