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"you have freedom to agree with us" - communists
Actually fits them both and that's not the only similarity.
Socialism, communism, fascism, nazism - it's all the same shit, the only difference is just the idological mumbo-jumbo on the surface level
Socialism? Really?
Yeah, my parents and grandparents lived through socialism in Poland. Heard enough from them to not have any delusions about it.
How americanized of you.
You seem to confuse free education and healthcare, government control of essential resources (water, electricity) and government taking case of the poor and disabled to some authoritarian communist shitshow behind the iron curtain.
You seem to confuse free education and healthcare, government control of essential resources (water, electricity) and government taking case of the poor and disabled to some authoritarian communist shitshow behind the iron curtain.
You're mistaking socialism for welfare state. Socialism IS the authoritarian shitshow behind iron curtain
If that's so, why do political left wing parties name themselves according to authoritarian shitshow behind iron curtain.
Because it appeals to misguided people who have no idea what shit show it was.
Seriously, in Polish Sejm there's currently no party with "Socialism" in the name. That brand doesn't sell here
In reality the model you described earlier runs in majority of European countries - state run health care + state run or at least state controlled critical infrastructure + some welfare for poor - all of this financed by taxes collected from capitalist economy.
By all possible definitions it's a welfare state
Most of civilized world outside of US works like that.
Well, woudn't be the first time words get new meaning due to events in history.
In nordic countries using taxation to limit gap between rich and poor, keeping government control of vital resources, free government sponsored healthcare, handing social welfare to poor and disabled, etc. is considered socialism.
Right wing politics is the opposite. They want to privatise everything, leave the poor and the disabled to charity organisations that work on donations from people who care, don't think the rich should be taxed for being rich. Basically minimising government ownership and control of societys money flow to establish truly free market.
handing social welfare to poor and disabled, etc
The fact that you implement some policies that are socialist in nature, doesn't mean that whole system you're running is socialism. Especially considering that all these states run capitalistic economies at their core
Well, woudn't be the first time words get new meaning due to events in history.
Thing is, socialism as a system has surprisingly almost no strict definition. The best I've ever found is "Democratization of access to means of production" or "State control of means of production"
By these definitions Polish socialism with its centrally planed economy was an actual socialism.
What's the joke that I'm missing?
Lemmy mods are pathetic and ban happy, like all internet janitors
That's the joke
I've seen what unmoderated platforms look like, so, not being an ungrateful POS, I only complain about mods when it's convenient to me in the moment.
Seen old forums.
They are fine, did you notice the activity spike? Sure, some of it is in wrong categories...most of it is...and maybe they don't even post things related to forums...well, mostly naked titties...but so much activity!
I've seen what unmoderated platforms look like
They look like 4chan
not sure if you are joking but 4chan isn’t unmoderated either. just has a much more bare bones philosophy.
/b/ has no moderation other than removal of child abuse and other illegal stuff. There are no rules on that board
And lets be honest, when people say 4chan, they mean either /b/ or /pol/
totally. but i think it’s important to let people know even /pol/ and /b/ have mods. someone the other day told me non-moderation is the “default option” for internet spaces and i think that deep and ahistorical misconception can lead to poor leadership if left unchallenged.
That's true for sure. Lemm.ee is better than some other instances in that regard, it's federated to all the major ones. Lemmy.world also announced moderation changes recently, which seem to be going in a positive direction.
I think that might be the reason why lemmy.world admin forced loose moderation policy on everyone recently.
don’t worry i get the joke and it’s not funny enough to repeat you are happier not understanding
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