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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 122 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh by fucking gods. It's loss. People are STILL posting loss. And here I was thinking this was a chemistry meme.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Personally I can't wait for this meme to be dead and forgotten

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, me too. I've never even read the webcomic. Can we please just forget about it already?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Loss will live until the last soulless, inspiration destitute and desperately unfunny aging millennial dies a miserable and ugly death.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would be a loss for memory.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Like that baby

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

Carbonated loss

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fixed the charge on your 3-methyl-3,4,5,5,6-pentaethyl-6-butan-2-yl decane ion, aka lossane.

(It's been a while since I last did chemistry, so apologies if I messed up the nomenclature a bit)

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 31 points 2 weeks ago

As someone who paid enough attention in highschool chemistry to get a B, and occasionally watches Nile(red/blue) and E&I videos.... I know some of these words/symbols!

[–] sga@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

actually we start numbering by minimising the number of highest order addition, which is the isobutyl, if it gets same number regardless, then we try to minimise the sum of numbers, so i think it should be called

5-(isobutyl)-5,6,6,7,8-penta-ethyl-8-methyl-decane (I am assuming hydrogen's are present, just not represented, because that usually is the case)

I may alo be wrong here, it has been 4 years since I have been required to do nomenclature myself

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, my chemistry department taught me the other way around. I distinctly remember the phrase "methyl-ethyl" being thrown around a bit. Additionaly, we were taught to be more specific about isomers, hence me using butan-2-yl instead of isobutyl.

Then again, scientists often disagree strongly about things like this, so we could both be right. Also, there's a good chance this is just the A-Level specification being weird. I left my old textbook at my student flat, though, so I won't be able to check for a couple of weeks.

I could also be downright wrong myself.

As for the hydrogens, I had assumed they were not present, and that this lossane molecule is an ion with a charge of -50. This is borderline impossible to achieve in real life, of course.

[–] sga@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Now i remember we also had to specify what isobutyl (technically just 1 isobutyl exists (not counting stereoisomers), and other form would be tertbutyl). But giving highest priority and minimising sum were definitely something we were taught.

I was free enough to look it up this time - IUPAC guidelines for organic chem - https://iupac.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Organic-Brief-Guide-brochure_v1.1_June2021.pdf (or more generally https://iupac.org/what-we-do/nomenclature/brief-guides/)

Section 7 ( c ) Lowest locant(s) for principal characteristic group(s)

Although I also remember just as we completed our unit on nomenclature, all we got was "common names", now i was supposed to know of the top of my head what a cumene is (which I think is isopropyl benzene (not going to check this one)). Same thing happened with polymers, we were taught IUPAC, and then again, "industrial names"

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any idea what a molecule like that would be useful for?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fuel? Hydrocarbons like that are quite combustible. It could also be incorporated into a lipid or something.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 50 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

So ... What does this chemical make you lose?

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 weeks ago
[–] riskable@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago

Your marbles.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

You lose nothing, don't worry about it.

On the other hand, you learn C (the programming language) by ingesting it, which would be considered a punishment by some.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

It makes you lose your way in a vast endless c

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Positive thoughts and other particles with a positive charge.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Couldn’t resist. In a more standard form this molecule should (I believe—chemistry has been a long time ago) look like this:

Made with MolView –https://molview.org/?smiles=C%28%5BC%40%5D%28CC%29%28C%29C%28CC%29%5BC%40%5D%28CC%29%28CC%29%5BC%40%40%5D%28C%28C%29C%29%28CC%29CCCC%29C

People knowledgeable in chemistry, please correct!

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

If I ever teach chemistry to kids imma tell them to name this

[–] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Change/Invert the steric centers at 3 or 6 and it should be fine.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Assuming this has a 47 hydrogens stuck on to make it stable, I'd call it:

3-methyl-3,4,5,5,6-pentaethyl-6-buta-2-yl decane

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

dodecane has a 12 carbon chain. The longest chain here is 10 carbons, which would be decane.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

Good catch.

[–] Sedathems@mander.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am a total chem nitwit, would you like to explain me how you come to this ?

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It basically comes down to finding the longest chain of carbons, then you number each of the carbons on that chain and list off things that are attached to each of them. For example, 1 carbon = methyl, 2 carbons = ethyl, etc.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 weeks ago

The urge to add hydrogens to all the carbons not fully bonded is overwhelming

[–] technohacker@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago

(1,2,2,50)-loss-quinquagintinane

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I somehow recognized it immediately. I think this meme has rewritten my brain.

[–] buttwater@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ah ok so it's Loss got it

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago

My stoned ass thought this was a shifter tree diagram of a goofy little manual transmission for a sec. All gears are just 'crash', lol

[–] don@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

…is this gain?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can someone explain this to me? I don’t get it, but I want to.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm at a loss

[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OK how long until it kicks in?

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

a few years and then you die of cancer

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

*Cccccccccccccccccccccccccancer

[–] NahMarcas@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

3-metilhexa-4,5,5,6,7,7-etil-4-butil From the head, im feel happy now