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[–] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 162 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The first one lets you turn K on or off

[–] theit8514@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Found some documentation listing the two middle switches as the rounding switch (up fraction down) and the decimal switch (auto? 0 to 6 then hex?). No idea on the other two.

http://www.calcuseum.com/SCRAPBOOK/BONUS/32853/1.htm

Decimal switch: [A-0-2-3-4-6-F], Round switch: [(ArrowUp)-5/4-(ArrowDown)], Miscellaneous switch: [(Blank)-K .-(Sigma)],

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

Some guesses by ChatGPT:

Left Switch ("K" setting):
  • K: Likely for a "constant mode," where the calculator uses one operand as a constant for repeated >calculations (e.g., multiplying several numbers by the same value).
  • The other position is likely "normal mode," disabling this feature.
Middle Switch ("A/2/4/6" etc.):
  • This could control decimal rounding or precision:
  • "A" might stand for "automatic" mode.
  • "0, 2, 3, 4, 6" refers to the number of decimal places displayed or used in calculations.
  • "F" likely stands for "full precision," using all available decimal places.
Right Switch ("Σ" setting):
  • Σ: Likely enables a "summation mode," where the calculator automatically adds results to a running total (useful for bookkeeping or repetitive additions).
  • The other position disables this mode.

Being Swedish the "constant mode" seems likely as we often used k (for "konstant") in school math to represent a constant (e.g. for the slope of a line).

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Bold of you to mention chat gpt in a comment, I feel like any mention of it tends to get down voted to hell, even when it's appropriately used as you did here

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those fucking things are great as tools to figure stuff out. Can't trust them to be correct, but you can trust them to shoot the shit and dribble the ball to a destination which is unknowable to man

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't trust them to be correct,

At some point people somehow got the idea that if you blindly trust something, bad things that come from that aren't your fault. People definitely aren't skeptical enough. That's the problem.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least it can give you more precise questions to google to verify its output

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Until I saw your post, I was going to guess the A,0,2,3,4,6,F switch would switch it into different numerical bases. Like, if you wanted to do math in binary, switch to the "2" position. "0" (or maybe "A") would be base 10. "F" would be hexadecimal. But what you have definitely makes more sense.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

F is 15, so that'd be weird for hex, and I've never seen base 4 or 6 used for anything, base 8 is common for some things but missing here.

[–] zarp86@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

It kind of makes sense in that 15 is the last single digit in hex.

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[–] nef@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This looks mostly right. The precision slider is ~~definitely~~ probably only for the output, not calculations. The (up | 5/4 | down) is (always round up | round 5+ up and 4- down | always round down)

What I'd like to know is how the A and F settings are different.

[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Auto to me (if A is Auto) sounds like it'd truncate unnecessary digits (4 or 4.0 instead of 4.0000) maybe? Whereas if F is Full then you'd get full precision?

Idk seems logical but not especially useful, probably not a great guess.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i've never seen one of these display decimals like that, it doesn't seem like something that would need a setting.

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[–] amphetaminisiert@feddit.nl 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you just plug the picture into chatgpt? It's awesome if something like that works :o

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes I uploaded the image and asked it the same question as OP

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I use that feature all the time. It’s really great. I can upload an image of text data and get an output in table or summary format.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I see a lot of wrong info on the the decimal slider. This is how it works:

A is for "Add-mode". This means that 2 decimals are always assumed. It's used for adding a lot of 2 decimal numbers, because you'll never have to press the decimal key. If you've ever worked a credit card terminal and having to enter 200 to get 2.00$, that's how this setting works.

0-6 are fixed and rounded according to the rounding setting.

The decimal F is for floating. It'll use the most relevant amount of decimals.

Another funny button is MU which is Mark Up. It's used with the percentage button. It's a backward ass way to do percentages. You'll enter a value and then MU the percentage that you want from the result, instead of the input. Say you have product that costs 100 and you'll want to mark it up, so you'll get 20% of your new sales price as profit. Press 100 MU 20% and it should show 125, which is your sales price, because 25 is the 20% of 125. It doesn't make sense to me why anyone ever needed that button.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually I found this site (in German) which says that the MU is for Impact Calculation. Which... I wouldn't even begin to try to understand how I'd use.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

According to that site, it also has an item counter. Normally this also on the print, but without a printer I guess it needs a button for that. Perhaps the IC button?

Remember that on desktop calculators the operations are entered reverse of ordinary pocket calculators. First you press the number and then you press the operation. So to do 100 - 50 you need to press "100 + 50 -"

Same for the MU. First you need a number to be added. Then MU some number as percentage and +=.

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's some great info!

The back of it says it's been used at a local insurance company. Wonder if that button is useful there somehow.

Do you know what the rightmost row is about? And the two buttons above C and CE?

edit: the MU function doesn't seem to do anything. Maybe I'm missing something.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

"What's up with your calculator, bruh? It says 2+2 equals infinity."

"Did you set it to F?"

"Yeah. What's F mean?"

"It means it's Fucked."

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Thanks, I already know no. means number

[–] obscur_e@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Wait, holy crap, why is No. short for number? Must have to do with another language?

Edited to add, of course the answer is Latin.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No means no, you misogynist pig!

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[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

apology for poor english

when were you when svenska calculator post drop?

i was sat at home eating IKEA meatballs when notification ring

‘Calculator switch set to K’

‘no’

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s an older copypasta sir, but it checks out.

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[–] dditty@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks like Facit calculators were originally manufactured in Sweden and then later Japan. No mention of that particular model on this website, however

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I know. I'm in Sweden. Facit was a big thing in its day. This one's made by Sharp in Japan. It's a 2102. Or maybe that's when the manual will be released.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I see a round up, didn't round, or round down switch. The next one might be how many points if precision??. The last one has to do with sum vs series somehow.

That is interesting, though. Beyond me, that's for sure

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

If I move the larger switch to A, everything is done in decimal. Maybe that's a hint?

[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They seem to have some kind of function regarding how to perform or display calculations.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

This app isn't very intuitive

[–] hark@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The right-most switch lets you turn on sigma mode.

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

I would assume that's summation mode, so everything you enter is treated as a running total. This looks like a business calculator.

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Trying to find the sum of my meme ransom please respond

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

On the top left you can change from none or K

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[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

OK, SOME NERD PLEASE EXPLAIN THE SWITCHES ON THIS IRL CALCULATOR APP!

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