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[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not absolutely shit, it's a Thinkpad t440s with an i7 and 8gigs of RAM and a completely broken trackpad that I ordered to use as a PC when my desktop wasn't working in 2018. Started with a bare server OS then quickly realized the value of virtualization and deployed Proxmox on it in 2019. Have been using it as a modest little server ever since. But I realize it's now 10 years old. And it might be my server for another 5 years, or more if it can manage it.

In the host OS I tweaked some value to ensure the battery never charges over 80%. And while I don't know exactly how much electricity it consumes on idle, I believe it's not too much. Works great for what I want. The most significant issue is some error message that I can't remember the text of that would pop up, I think related to the NIC. I guess Linux and the NIC in this laptop have/had some kind of mutual misunderstanding.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Solid. My backup is a T440p, and behind that a X230, fucking bulletproof.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, absolutely. Same here, I find used laptops often make GREAT homelab systems, and ones with broken screens/mice/keyboards can be even better since you can get them CHEAP and still fully use them.

I have 4 doing various things including one acting as my "desktop" down in the homelab. But they're between 4 and 14 years old and do a great job for what they're used for.

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

@ripcord @GnuLinuxDude The lifecycle of my laptops:

- years 1-5: I use them.

- years 5-10: my kids use them (generally beating the crap out of them, covering them in boogers/popsicle juice, dropping them, etc).

- years 10-15: low-power selfhosted server which tucks away nicely, and has its own screen so that when something breaks I don't need to dig up an hdmi cable and monitor.

EDIT: because the OP asks for hardware: my current backup & torrent machine is a 4th gen i3 latitude e7240.

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My home Kubernetes cluster started out on a Core i7-920 with 8 GB of memory.

Upgraded to 16 GB memory

Upgraded to a Core i5-2400S

Upgraded to a Core i7-3770

Upgraded to 32 GB memory

Recently Upgraded to a Core i5-7600K

I think I'll stay with that for rather long...

I did however add 2 Intel NUCs (gen 6 and gen 8) to the cluster to have a distributed control plane and some distributed storage.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I faced that only with different editions of Windows limiting it by itself.

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

I moved from a Drll R710 with dual docket Xeons to a rack mount desktop case with a single Ryzen R5 5600G. I doubled the performance and halved the power consumption in one go. I do miss having idrac though. I need a KVM over IP solution but haven't stomached the cost yet. For how often I need it it's not an issue.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

The beauty of self hosting is most of it doesn't actually require that much compute power. Thus, it's a perfect use for hardware that is otherwise considered absolutely shit. That hardware would otherwise go in the trash. But use it to self host, and in most cases it's idle most of the time so it doesn't use much power anyway.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Look for a processor for the same socket that supports more RAM and make sure the Motherboard can handle it - maybe you're lucky and it's not a limit of that architecture.

If that won't work, breakup your self-hosting needs into multiple machines and add another second hand or cheap machine to the pile.

I've worked in designing computer systems to handle tons of data and requests and often the only reasonable solution is to break up the load and throw more machines at it (for example, when serving millions of requests on a website, just put a load balancer in front of it that assigns user sessions and associated requests to multiple machines, so the load balancer pretty much just routes request by user session whilst the heavy processing stuff is done by multiple machines in such a way the you can just expand the whole thing by adding more machines).

In a self-hosting scenario I suspect you'll have a lot of margin for expansion by splitting services into multiple hosts and using stuff like network shared drives in the background for shared data, before you have to fully upgrade a host machine because you hit that architecture's maximum memory.

Granted, if a single service whose load can't be broken down so that you can run it as a cluster, needs more memory than you can put in any of your machines, then you're stuck having to get a new machine, but even then by splitting services you can get a machine with a newer architecture that can handle more memory but is still cheap (such as a cheap mini-PC) and just move that memory-heavy service to it whilst leaving CPU intensive services in the old but more powerful machine.

[–] SolaceFiend@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm still interested in Self-Hosting but I actually tried getting into self-hosting a year or so ago. I bought a s***** desktop computer from Walmart, and installed window server 2020 on it to try to practice on that.

Thought I could use it to put some bullet points on my resume, and maybe get into self hosting later with next cloud. I ended up not fully following through because I felt like I needed to first buy new editions of the server administration and network infrastructure textbooks I had learned from a decade prior, before I could continue with giving it an FQDN, setting it up as a primary DNS Server, or pointing it at one, and etc.

So it was only accessible on my LAN, because I was afraid of making it a remotely accessible server unless I knew I had good firewall rules, and had set up the primary DNS server correctly, and ultimately just never finished setting it up. The most ever accomplished was getting it working as a file server for personal storage, and creating local accounts with usernames and passwords for both myself and my mom, whom I was living with at the time. It could authenticate remote access through our local Wi-Fi, but I never got further.

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Plex server is running on my old Threadripper 1950X. Thing has been a champ. Due to rebuild it since I've got newer hardware to cycle into it but been dragging my heels on it. Not looking forward to it.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't ryzen not recommended for transcoding? Plus, I've read that power efficiency isn't great. Mostly regarding idle power consumption.

[–] TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ryzen is not recommended for transcoding because the Radeon integrated GPU's encoding accelerator is not as fast as in intel iGPUs. But this does not come into play if you A) have 16 cores and B) don't even have an integrated GPU.

And about idle power consumption: I don't think it's a point of interest if you are using a workstation class computer.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's a point of a interest for any hw running 24/7 but you do you.

Regarding transcoding, are you saying you're not even doing it? If you are, doing it with your cpu is far more inefficient than using a gpu. But again, different strokes I guess.

[–] TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Dunno whether they are transcoding or not nor why they have such a bizarre setup. But I would hope 16C/32T CPU from 2017 could handle software transcoding. Also peak power consumption while playing a movie does not really matter compared to idle power consumption. What matters more is that the motherboard is probably packed with pcie slots that consume a lot of power. But to OP it probably does not matter if they use a threadripper.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

I would hope 16C/32T CPU from 2017 could handle software transcoding

I didn't say it couldn't handle it. Just that it was very inefficient.

peak power consumption while playing a movie does not really matter compared to idle power consumption

I mentioned both things. Did you actually read my comments?

[–] gortbrown@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

I used to self host some stuff on an old 2011 iMac. Worked fine, actually

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oldest I got is limited to 16GB (excluding rPis). My main desktop is limited to 32GB which is annoying, because I sometimes need more. But, I have a home server with 128GB of RAM that I can use when it's not doing other stuff. I once needed more than 128GB of RAM (to run optimizations on a large ONNX model, iirc), so had to spin up an EC2 instance with 512GB of RAM.

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