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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (7 children)

You guys know what Guy Fawkes was trying to make happen, right? RIGHT?!

[–] FromPieces@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago

A cursory check that I'm too busy to give my full attention indicates that, maybe(?) the motive of the Gunpowder Treason was to improve religious freedom?

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

every folk hero, just as, for instance, any of the national myths, are mostly entirely made up, and as more time passes, the less historical truth remains. This, simply speaking, is folklore, that has nothing to do with actual history, its more about communicating ideas and ideologies, that you imply with the story you're making up, tying it up to real historical characters is just a way of cheap advertisement. I believe, we must not ever forget that, as we are destined to have lots of useless fights otherwise.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Between Anonymous, Occupy, and proud boys all using the same mask, the only shared symbolism for the Guy Fawkes mask is really "resistance" of some kind. Which is so broad, it's hard to call it a symbol at all.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did the Proud Boys not understand that the government V opposed was homophobic, Islamophobic, and hyper-christian? Did they not understand that the movie has multiple gay heroes? Did they not understand it was directed by trans women? The Proud Boys aren't V! They're the Party!

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Did the Proud Boys not understand

No

[–] jared@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean immediately sure but in reality he was just an early al-qaeda prototype trying to spread his religion by blowing people up

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Yeah... Of all the antigovernment people to latch onto it's vaguely unfortunate that we landed on fawks. Like, I do get that it's a pop culture reference more than an actual historical reference, but still.
There was legitimate persecution of Catholics in England at the time, so it doesn't least have a veneer of fighting tyranny, but he didn't even actually succeed.

Shoulda gone for Louis Lingg. A bit more modern, and had the awesome criminal defense that "it's his right to fill his house with dynamite".

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Heroes aren't always good people. Their reasons are lost to time to the average person, but the message is remembered. The actions supersede the reason.

Guy Fawkes is not remembered as a person, he's remembered as a figure.

Not calling this a good thing.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Tried to blow up UK parliament with the king inside centuries ago because the king was the wrong kind of Christian. Got caught and hung. In the UK we celebrate the capture every 5th November with a bonfire and fireworks, some places even burn an effigy of guy on the bonfire but that is becoming less common.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Imo your country need more blowing up of parliament.

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago

To be honest, not only their country

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, is this meme about Guy Fawkes or is it about V?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago

V definitely did not want a monarchy

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He’s remembered as a figure who wanted to kill all of Parliament and return the nation to an absolute monarchy.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

He’s remembered as a figure who wanted to kill all of Parliament ~~and return the nation to an absolute monarchy.~~

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Yet another bombing attempt by a far right terrorist.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guy Fawkes is the idea, V is in the image, different ideals

[–] ours@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Yep, V had no trace of Fawkes' pro-Catholic motivations.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

He wanted to kill King James. Regicide is always based.

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

You guys know what V was trying to make happen, right? RIGHT?!

[–] remer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lesnout27@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Rember 💯🦆

[–] httperror418@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Pepperidge farm remembers

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Is this what the cops are saying he changed his clothes into now?

They ought to start calling him the clean assassin with how frequently he changes clothes.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

"Hello? Based department? I found you a new recruit."

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Can someone share the origin of this meme? (The hooded smiling man) I can't find anything on Know Your Meme and it's everywhere.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Look up Guy Fawkes. I don't remember all the details but I think he was some French guy who got executed for something.

Unless you're talking about that specific person wearing that outfit in which case he's from the movie V for Vendetta with Natalie Portman and Hugo Weaving.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

British, he hosted a failed terrorist attack against the monarch.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I knew I got the details wrong. Thanks for the correction!

Even though I completely misunderstood what that person was asking about lmao

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's the dude who shot the United Healthcare CEO

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Thanks, but weird that we are making memes about a criminal.

[–] Serialchemist@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes - it’s true the healthcare CEO had more blood on his hands than the shooter, but that’s no reason to refer to the CEO as a criminal!

He was just a greedy, unethical monster who lived off the largess of others’ suffering.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Killing the CEO will change nothing, the solution is to add regulations to healthcare companies, including jail penalties if necessary.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Some companies have already backed away from some of their more predatory stuff... so it did have an effect.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago

To the extent that he wasn't a criminal it's only because our government is too corrupt to make his actions illegal.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 0 points 1 month ago

...I mean, welcome to the internet?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

It's not. It's weird that you're defending a billionaire, bootlicker.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love the double morale of some people with the meme templates.

Lots of people encouraging others to stop using the guy at the "change my mind" meme because that person is bad but it's ok to use a literal criminal (the one that killed the CEO of a company)?

I didn't know that killing was considered a good action depending if the one dead is rich or not. /s

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh won't somebody think of the hyper rich oligarchs exploiting sick and dying people for profit?!?!?!

Buddy, bootlicking the billionaires won't make them reconsider denying your insurance claim.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

The man he killed was a thousand times more criminal than the shooter.

The shooter may be a criminal, but he significantly reduced the total criminality of this world.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like the same guy to me.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

He was with me on a wilderness camping trip the whole time.

[–] schizolol9@lemy.lol 0 points 1 month ago

Guys we gotta problem looks like bro has been caught. We gotta find a way to free him!

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

"I know of no reason why CEO open season should ever be forgot."

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

stop larping