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Former Ukrainian boxing champion Wladimir Klitschko accused podcaster Joe Rogan of “repeating Russian propaganda” after Rogan criticized U.S. military aid to Ukraine and suggested it could escalate into World War III.

Klitschko defended Ukraine’s resistance against Russia, highlighting the country’s fight for freedom and condemning Rogan’s remarks as aiding Putin’s agenda.

He invited Rogan to discuss their differences on the podcast “like free men.”

Rogan, who recently endorsed Donald Trump, called the war a “proxy war” and criticized Biden’s decision to allow Ukraine to strike Russian soil with U.S.-supplied missiles.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Rogan was paid off by the Trump campaign which is owned by Putin. So Rogan is now Russian asset. Cool.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Challenge the pipsqueak to a boxing match. If he accepts or demurs he still looks like the twerp he is

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Klitschko v Rogan is a celebrity fight I'd actually like to see.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Broprah says what he’s paid to say. Noting more, nothing less. The guy is a spineless coward- nothing less.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Broprah, that's good 😂

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

Like my dad taught me, give bullies everything they want all the time so they don't take stuff or hurt you.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“I listen to your latest podcast,” said Klitschko, whose brother Vitali Klitschko was also a world champion boxer and is now mayor of Kyiv.

“I’m sending you this video to let you know that I disagree. You talk about these American weapons being sent to Ukraine, which you believe will lead to the third world war. So let me tell you that you’re repeating Russian propaganda.”

. . . Rogan said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was “100% wrong” but remarked of the Ukrainian president: “[Volodymyr] Zelenskyy says Putin is terrified. Fuck you, man. You fucking people are about to start world war three.”

He added: “The whole thing is a proxy war … it is fucking insane.”

Putin has long claimed US assistance for Ukraine is part of a proxy war aimed at weakening Russia.

“Putin’s Russia is in trouble, so they want to scare you and people like you,” Klitschko said in his message to Rogan. “His war was supposed to last three days. It has lasted three years thanks to the heroism and sacrifice of us Ukrainians. So you’re using the only weapon that Putin really intends to use, propaganda, and this weapon really weakens our democracies.

“Putin’s Russia wants to destroy Ukraine quietly. They want America to stay quiet. Not great, but quiet. A great America is not an America that abandons countries that defend freedom with their lives.

“In short, you see, I have quite a few points of difference. If you invite me on your podcast, we could discuss them like free men.”

Brilliant. But someone get him a fediverse account please. It's crazy this is on Xitter.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

I hate America being world police but we are supposed to ally with democracy. That’s the whole reason we didn’t defend the government of France against the people of France.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 147 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Joe Rogan is antivax incel cancer

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Klitschko should invite Rogan into a boxing ring.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I have recently been trying to enlighten my Joe Rogan loving relative as to his (what I would consider, clear) political leanings and tendency to spew propaganda. "I'm just asking questions" is one of the most powerful propaganda tactics, since it can be used to relatively quickly normalize any topic.

As one might expect, the conversations haven't gone well. People who listen to Joe Rogan tend to think they are well informed by virtue of listening to Joe Rogan.

I think collectively we need to start referring to him only as "the former host of Fear Factor" to really drive home exactly who it is these people are idolizing.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I watched a lot of early Rogan.. And even though he was an idiot, there were so many wonderful conversations with interesting people.

Then came the likes of Jocko Willink, and slowly you saw more right wing people creep into his orbit. The early Peterson was even fun to listen to and said some good stuff.. but the conversation became more political, more right wing and in my opinion less interesting... Just regurgitation of right wing talking points. Once Rogan was in talks with Spotify.. there was nothing interesting left. Rogan probably got info from Spotify on demographics, targeting, subjects that do best and decided a 100 million was enough to sell gis soul. Then by constantly being in the same room with the ghouls and smelling their farts.. they managed to convince him the farts smelled nice.

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago (22 children)

I now see Rogan as our generations Rush Limbaugh. He fell so far, I used to enjoy listening to his podcast and now he's just a rich, bitter, insular propaganda mouthpiece.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yea he had some great guests and it was interesting, now it's Alex jones and right wing shit wagons... it's really fucked.

But with these comments from him, he can go fuck his self. He's repeating russian propaganda. Fuck him and fuck russia.

Slava Ukraini

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

The episode of Fear Factor he was always meant for.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

Bless this guys heart, but after the Dibble affair it is clear there is no point debating insane positions in front of an insane audience.

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