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Ukrainian boxing champ Wladimir Klitschko calls out Rogan for ‘repeating Russian propaganda’
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There it is. If “hold elections” sets you off, you’re backing a dictator.
Hold elections during a war? That sounds like a terrible idea.
So just hold onto power indefinitely by never ending the war. Netanyahu and Zelenskyy using the same playbook.
It’s actually a fine idea, and the only way for a truly democratic country to allow the citizens to choose themselves whether or not the war should continue.
It's not the same. What are you talking about. Ukraine is the one being invaded. How do you get Ukrainian citizens currently being occupied ballots?
Considering the last fair Ukrainian election leaned friendly towards Russia, before the US staged a coup with the far-right, I’d be willing to bet Russia would allow neurtral election monitors in.
Sorry, when was the last fair election in Ruzzia again?
Who was it that backed the totalitarian ruler that was overthrown by the people of Ukraine?
They probably haven’t had a fair election since the Soviet Union. Just because I oppose the far right puppet government in Ukraine does not imply I support Russia.
The people of Ukraine elected a government that was then overthrown in a coup by far-right Nazis and backed by the US.
It was an organised people's revolution last I recall. There was clear evidence of fraud working directly opposite of the will of the people. That is fact. Unless you're saying that's not accepted fact and can provide evidence to the contrary?
So the Maiden Coup didn’t happen? LoL. What evidence would convince someone who denies a historical event actually happened?
Especially a historical event where Nazis came to power. People who deny those aren’t typically swayed by any evidence.
I literally said it did happen. It was literally a people's revolution that saw the end of a russian puppet taking power illegally and the rise of a people tired of being under the boot?
Do I deny NATO or US involvement? No. That would be naive and counter to historical fact. It would actually almost be as naive as believing the kremlin propaganda points you spew out.
Ukrainians tired of being sold out by their politicians changed the course of power in their nation and in return Russia invaded Crimea. This is fact. With or without US aid. This is fact. The will for change was there. This is fact. Russia openly and brazenly defrauded the Ukrainian election. This is fact.
Prove to me that Nazis took over the entire Ukrainian government. Show me the facts.
Okay, commissar.
So you're saying that if the Ukrainian citizenry simply votes to stop the war, Russia will stop shelling their homes?
Considering the last fair election leaned pro-Russia, it’s more likely Zelenskyy’s far right regime would kill the ethnic Russian Ukrainians in retaliation, as they did for 8 years prior to the invasion.
When was the last fair election in Russia? Give me a year
Not since the Soviet Union. I don’t support Russia either.