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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 82 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They're going to really show Trump how unfair he is being, appeal to his better nature, and make him feel bad so he changes his ways. They may even point out how he's not following the rules as they're normally interpreted. For sure it will work this time. There's no way he can survive this.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Woah, woah, woah! They're also going to point out how he's not following norms...

Guess the gloves are coming off, god damn...

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

what better nature? He ain't got one

Please, please don't make people use the sarcasm /s symbol here. That garbage can stay on reddit.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Right. Democrats putting up a fight. Sure.

[–] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

lol yeah what the hell is that headline? Some democrats are already turning against the trans community 🙄

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Well they lost majority so fat chances.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They are going to TP his chair.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Someone's going to sneak a fart bag on his chair right before he sits down, and everyone will laugh at him!

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Classic democrat pranksters!

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Oooo They are going to write such a strongly worded memo!

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago
[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This reeks from industrial levels of Copeium completely untethered to the new reality which faces the 119th Congress, when The Supreme Court is still controlled by Republicans, both houses are controlled by Republicans and Donald Trump is once again the President. This is publishing for the sake of publishing, it should not be construed as anything you can hang your hat on.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

To be fair, they controlled both the House and the Senate in 2016, too. They didn't have the courts, yet, but they soon did. And they still barely agreed on anything.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the GOP is weird because they are all on the same page in terms of talking points (disinformation) and voter suppression, but once they get in power none of them can agree, and none of them take it seriously.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because you have two primary camps there right now - the corpocratic old guard and the nationalistic new guard. The nationalists were never actually supposed to have power, they were just meant to be an easily manipulable voter base. It's not even the first time they've had an 'inmates running the asylum' situation because the exact same thing happened with racists when they tried the Southern Strategy.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 1 points 23 hours ago

I think we also got a taste of this with the Tea Party movement on the Right. They wanted to break everything and cared very little about actually governing. It's about hurting people and sowing bad faith discourse.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's a much different GOP this time around. Before Trump was the new guy. The Outsider. This time he is the party. This time everyone has to kiss his ring and owes their entire power base to him.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

This time they have to decide who among them will take his mantle in 2028. Whoever it is needs to be ready in 2027, so the hunger games are starting sooner than you think.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 47 points 4 days ago

On any GOP-only legislation, there is "going to be enormous pressure" on Republican centrists to break away, said Rep. Joe Morelle (D-N.Y.)

Dudes living in a dream world.

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"#DemsDontDeliver"

I'm not gonna believe it unless he cries on tv

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 20 points 4 days ago

"We really, really mean it this time."

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 17 points 4 days ago

I hope they all use the men's room. All of them.

[–] Whirlygirl9@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 4 days ago
[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 17 points 4 days ago

Freddie The Lobster says: “Just Wait 'Til I Get These Fucking Rubber Bands Off"

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doubt. The House isn't the Senate, the minority can't do shit.

The senate minority cant do shit either. The senate filibuster rules are enforced by the parliamentarian, who the vice president can overrule. Doesn't even need to abolish filibuster

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Oh bless their hearts, they think they hold power.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Awesome, glad you decided to do your job after throwing the fight

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Wishful fucking thinking.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

With what leverage? They could take Lemmy's advice and get deep into beans so that they are gassy all the time, but beyond farting and stinking the place up, the cake is baked.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

There's some things to be hopeful about. Trump cannot run again, so the republican party has no choice but to be thinking about what's next. Additionally, aside from the slim majority in the house, mid-term elections are only two years away. That means the Republicans need to thread a needle here by sufficiently pacifying the MAGA diehards and Trump, but not so much that they have complete reign over the direction of the economy.

Many in the republican party have become full-on cultists. But many of them also just play-act because it's where the power is right now. And many of them aren't in the cult, but they simply ignore it because it benefits the party. If the Magats are given no leash, their policies will almost inevitably turn the electorate against them. So many of Trump's proposals are good "tough guy" vengeance talking points that speak to aggrieved white people, but the election was closer than they are pretending.

If Trump goes on a full vengeance tour and his Project 2025 crew enacts their policies, the consequences of all that rhetoric will be devastating to poor white people. I know we like to think it happened during his first term and they didn't care, but it's not true. He was a fairly ineffective president. But now that he's got people around him that want to actually act not talk, there's a huge downside risk that they'll start losing power during the mid-term elections. If that happens, the last two years for Trump will be miserable as everyone jumps ship from the senile guy in his mid-80s that can't run again and is bleeding out the republican party of support.

Political pragmatics will force the republican party to turn on him. He's simply unable to wield much influence after his last term. He will be too old and have no political future. And that will be recognized and cause some political realignment far before his presidency comes to an end.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Trump can't legally run again based on our current legal framework. I think that's somewhat important to clarify.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why can't Trump run for a Third Term? Because the Constitution says so? Psh! When have Republicans cared about the Constitution (except when Defending people who Murder a Bunch of Children in a School!)?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's theoretically possible but extremely unlikely for a number of reasons. There's a difference between bending constitutional intent by flouting democratic norms on the one hand, and outright ignoring what most people consider to be an explicit and core constitutional principle on the other. And, again, I'm not someone that believes Trump is ultimately heading for a lich-king transformation, so basic biology makes it even more unlikely.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

narrator: they should, but in no way will be able to

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As with the last congress, the new one will have very slim margin and Johnson will need Democrats to get anything done.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I believe we will find, that with no firewalls, and no checks to Trump unmitigated threat of revenge, we will see any Republicans stand up to him again. You're thinking in terms of present day back to 2016 when Trump's win was a surprise, and he didn't know where the buttons on the dash were yet. It's 8 years later, and he's got a team assembled for raw power, and vengeance. Let's meet back here in 12 months and discuss the amount of times Republicans were thwarted in their majorities, I'm pretty sure it's going we're going to have zero examples of "Johnson needing Democrats" for anything at all

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