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[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 26 points 5 hours ago

Outrageous! How the fuck are we supposed to murder, rob, subjugate, steal, and run our modern-day slave empires if the ICC can just go and arrest people all willy-nilly and shit?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 72 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck you, Biden. Shit like this is what just opened the door to Project 2025.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 45 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, they lost because they blindly support the billionaires over everyday people. Israel is a tiny symptom of the real problem, which is the concentration of wealth.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

They bailed out the teamsters pension fund and had to fight Republicans tooth and nail to do it — didnt even result in am endorsement and majority of teamsters still voted GOP.

CHIP act made Arizona flush with manufacturing and construction jobs, still voted GOP.

The reason Democrats lose is because they have to campaign against a made-up Republican that is normal and reasonable and Republicans get to campaign against the Oberlin faculty lounge instead of Democrats

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yet they never tackled the monopolies in the healthcare, food and housing industries responsible for the cost of living crisis, which cost them the election.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Earlier they lost because they didn't support workers, now they lost because they didn't break up every food, healthcare, and housing company.

I imagine if they did break those companies up and still lost you'd find another aspect of the party that isn't to to your liking and pin the blame on that going on and on and on.

If improving people's material conditions worked, the Democrats would win every teamster or every person who relies on the ACA for their healthcare would vote Democrat and they don't.

The reality is that democrats lose because a huge chunk of voters spend 2 hours a day listening to the voice of a guy who sounds like their dad, telling them that Democrats only care about the gays or the blacks or the browns, and even if you think the republicans are weird religious freaks - at least their cruelty is good for the economy. They hear this idea repeated to them over and over and over and over again and when that happens the human mind starts to assume it's the truth.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

No argument that the Democrats focused on unimportant rhetoric. And the lies were damaging, because they were positioned as defending the status quo.

The best way to support workers is to prevent their exploitation

Have a listen to AOCs interviews of her supporters who voted Trump, as well as the swing voters who stayed away. It goes a long way to explain why 20million dem voters stayed away.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

He's afraid that if he doesn't slide us into unlikeability gradually, the shock could kill us.

4D chess?

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm surprised it didn't happen years ago. I'm also outraged that no u.s president has been tried

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Where does a 600 pound gorilla sit?

US foreign policy:Wherever the fuck he wants. Whatcha gonna do about it?

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 49 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

He's at the end of his career, doesn't need the money to fight the zionists propaganda, so that means he actually believes this.

OR like I suspected before, Israel houses A LOT of secret US intelligence and defense capabilities

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 4 points 2 hours ago

Yes this. The US isn't shy to back genocides done to secure control of territories held by US friendly regimes. It's kinda their thing really

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

In Israel it's legal for companies to sell computer exploits to nation states and other actors like corporations. A lot of ex military from the u.s. work for these companies in Israel.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago

please die together with Trump and Putin

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 94 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

He welcomes Trump with open arms, and acts like a lame duck. But can still get fired up to defend war criminals and try to stop Bernie’s move to block arms shipments. I don’t even know what to say.

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 5 points 2 hours ago

Trump will help Bibi finish off the Palestinians entirely without Biden's modest pretense of pretending to give a shit about a two-state solution

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 41 points 11 hours ago

You say what was obvious from the start. Democrats were never going to stop the genocide in Gaza.

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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 83 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

"Were there not an Israel, the United States would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region."

-- Joe Biden

Israel is good for 2 things, as far as 60% of Congress is concerned: destabilizing Muslim countries to prevent a strong coalition from forming, and donating money to US politicians. What's a little genocide in the face of that?

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 2 points 2 hours ago

Israel is an Islamic hate sponge that allows US huge force projection within the ME.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's far too generous. At the very most, 10% of congress is on the right side of history when it comes to America's favorite fascist apartheid regime.

The public in general is closer to 65-35 the opposite direction.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That may be true, but only 60% of congress is receiving Israeli bribes. Hence the number I chose.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 107 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

huh, we wasn't cynically posturing for election purposes, he really wants to die on this hill :/

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

Seems or entire government does. How much shady shit does isreal do for our country? Our official imports and exports don't really look that dramatic.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Biden is a devout catholic, meaning he believes Isreal must be the home for all jews for the rapture to happen. Not enough people are talking about this. Even the most "normal" religious people are nut jobs that shouldn't be in power.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought that was some evangelical sect crap. Roman catholics don't believe in ~~rapture~~ "the rapture".

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Christianity at its foundation is an apocalyptic religion, more so in Mark than the later gospels but it's there in all 4 of them and comes back in full force in revelations which are all part of the Catholic canonical Bible. The specific details of what the end times will look like beyond what it says in the Bible differs greatly between different sects of Christianity, but they all predict some sort of divine apocalypse.

The mythical narrative is humanity doomed itself (Adam and Eve committing original sin dooming their progeny), Jesus came and erased that doom (by sacrificing himself to himself), and said he'll be back (within the apostles lifetime) to bring the end times and utopia for Christians.

Edit: Catholic doctrine regarding the apocalypse: https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/apocalypse

And some of the predictions attributed to Jesus in Matthew as signs of the end is nigh: https://www.catholic365.com/article/40494/decoding-the-signs-the-catholic-perspective-on-end-times.html

At this point Im not gonna worry what hill so long as he chooses to die on it. Good riddance.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 52 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He pretty much did already.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 46 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

He'll not be remembered kindly by history for this. Even if he was objectively decent president.

He will be remembered like silent Cal, except instead of doing to little to combat the oncoming great depression, it will be doing to little to prevent fascism.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Sad but true. I really don't understand why he is so adamant in his support for Netanyahu.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago

Because he's a true believer who's drunk the Zionism kool-aid.

Plus it probably helps that he's received more money from AIPAC throughout his political career than his current net worth.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Because it's self serving.

If Bibi is a war criminal for leveraging an admittedly horrible terrorist attack to commit horrendous atrocities, so is Joe Biden.

What the US did in the 2 decades post 9/11 is no better or worse than what Israel is doing now. Accountability for one means accountability for the other, and Biden doesn't want to be held accountable.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 hours ago

What the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was wrong, no doubt. There's a lot of reasons for that, ranging from who was actually responsible for 9/11 to all the actual violence between the civilians and soldiers. But systematic extermination is NOT one of those reasons. What Israel is doing in Gaza is 1000x worse. Equating it to how the US conducted its affairs minimizes what's actually happening, muddying the water and keeping people from feeling like they should actually be doing anything about it.

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[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm soft but I find the dead and starving children to be slightly more outrageous

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago

How anti-semitic!

/s

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 51 points 14 hours ago

Fuck me, that's some selective outrage there.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 41 points 14 hours ago

Doesn’t really matter what he thinks, since the US ain’t part of the ICC. What’s pathetic is countries being part of the ICC, condemning the arrest warrants.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 23 points 13 hours ago

Hey, Joe: Shut up, man.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago

We know what you think genocide Joe.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 23 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

And yet the voters keep getting the blame for Trump getting elected.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (30 children)

As well they fucking should. Trump isn't going to be any better for the Palestinian people than Biden and Harris. He is, in fact, going to be far worse for them. Also, he's a traitor, a serial rapist, a misogynist, a pedophile, a grifter, and an imbecile. The American voting population either liked what they saw, or didn't care enough to vote against him. Fuck every single one of those assholes right in the face.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago

Then let me ask you this: What did the democrats promised? That they're not Trump?

Most people look back at what Biden did, and saw nothing much. Some people stuck on the huricane saw they weren't getting the help they need. Meanwhile, the saw on the news some foreign countries they've never set their feet on getting all the money that could've been used for their people.

DNC is basically playing chicken with their supporter on the Palestine issue. "Yes, we're gonna let babies fly headless, but guess what, either us or that orange criminal!" Guess how that turned out. You're gonna complain about how Trump is gonna end this quicker. How is it worse exactly if they're gonna face the same fate in the end?

Meanwhile, Trump promised a strong arm approach to all the economic problem. A lot of people are desperate with their financial situation.

All that far-right policies are getting fanatical support. Meanwhile, the DNC were losing support as they tried to compromise with the right-wing ideologies.

Oh, and don't forget they would've had better chance with Sanders, but instead they went with Harris. The best she could do was play with women right.

But yeah, the voters suck!

[–] card797@champserver.net 2 points 5 hours ago

Education has been dwindling for a while. It's showing.

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[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago

I mean, they're just gonna go from genocide Joe to genocide convicted criminal Donald so not much of an upgrade there.

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