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October 9, 2024
Nice shave. I know a lot of people love Soft Heart, but I prefer Excelsior and Omnibus. This unscented aftershave is actually scented with a Roman Spice sample. It's really nice!
Excelsior is the base I learned with most, and I think it might always have a special place in my mind. I just get such good lather from it. I'm not convinced Omnibus is a step forward (although it's very good, too)
October 9, 2024
Brush: Elite Razor Honduran Rosewood Burl 24mm HMW Fan
Razor: Thiers Issard Le Transatlantic 7/8" Full Hollow Round Point
Lather: Barrister and Mann - Sandalwood - Soap
Aftershave: Barrister and Mann - Sandalwood - Aftershave
2 passes. Face lather. Excellent shave.
Have you ever posted a photo of that Le Transatlantic? I don't recall whether I ever saw it
I posted it here and here. I did a honing video too. No real glamour shots, though, and at 7/8 it is the favorite of my 3 TIs.
This concludes a week of shaves with 14-type razors with a stellar shave. After a lacklustre bout with the factory edge, I refreshed the edge, and there it is, that smooth, soft extra hollow feeling. This modern 14 is really on par with the Fili, Frio, and Henckels originals. I'm really looking forward to comparing this to the Moarteen soon.
Zenith extra soft horse ++;
This modern 14 is really on par with the Fili, Frio, and Henckels originals
I think it is all about geometry. I measured the bevel angle on the Gen 1 Fili, River Razors 14, Koraat 14-2.0, and Frio 14. All razors have bevel angles at ~15.5 degrees. I have measured other hollow ground razors that I have and none, except my cherished MK 31 Söderfors Extra Specialstål, have bevel angles equal to or less than this. The "better shaving" razors are all close though. Sadly, my River Razors 6/8 has a bevel angle of 19.2 degrees.
I think it is all about geometry.
that would make a lot of sense
Sadly, my River Razors 6/8 has a bevel angle of 19.2 degrees.
Does that mean that it's not a favourite?
Sadly, yes. I’ve known for a long time that typical razor bevel angles fall between 15 and 20 degrees. I tinkered with this, myself, a couple of years ago. I reduced the spine width on my Gold Dollar to change the sharpened bevel angle from just over 20 degrees to 18 degrees. Took a long time. The feel of the razor improved considerably.
That's a bummer.
I don't want to imagine how much time and effort it took to whittle down the spine enough to make a meaningful change in bevel angle 😅 .
Btw, I now want to measure my 17. I have a feeling it may have a blunter angle than my other razors, but it still shaves great. I need to double check my assumptions here.
Btw, I determine the bevel angle by just calculating the sharpening angle and doubling it. On all the razors I’ve seen, the sharpening angle falls well within the range where the small angle approximation for sine works. Typically, I just do the trig in my head.
Once I started paying attention to sharpening geometry, I started to realize why I like certain razors so much. I would be very interested in your experience on this as well. I’ve realized the ways in which I adapt to razors with wider bevel angles and this tips me off to actually measure them.
I'm not sure I follow. I'd have just measured the spine thickness t at the place of hone wear, and the width b from edge to spine hone wear and computed the bevel angle as α= 2 arc sin(b/(2w)), just as the central angle of an isosceles triangle . Is the sharpening angle β = α/2? in that case, I agree that β ≈ sin(β), certainly at the precision I'll have measuring t, and b.
Yes, that’s the sharpening angle. The bevel is formed by laying the razor on the stone at the spine and edge. The razor is sharpened by removing material (abrading) until the centerline from the spine through the edge intersects with the stone’s surface. For a razor, that angle is typically less than ten degrees and within the small angle approximation range. If I have my phone handy, I just use the calculator. Much more convenient than a slide rule :)
For the approximation to become useful, we just need to start thinking of bevel angles in units of radians now 😄
Already there, except I think in terms of sharpening angle and save the multiplication step. Since you have a penchant for maths, you'll be soon to follow :)
Oct 9, 2024 - Witchcrafts Wednesday - Bringing Out the Dead
Wednesday, October 9, 2024
I'm trying to do without aftershave today, maybe that will help. And joining @djundjila@sub.wetshaving.social in the Zenith XS horse club.
Have a good night!
Giddy up!
wyze0ne over on the other site did the same today. This just be a record 😅
BTW, this reminds me of the plan for the first AA meta challenge: The Equestrian, where everything is horse themed, e.g. Headless Horsemen + FriodomRiders + Horse brush + Roam/Buttero/ any horse themed software
There's donkey milk soap stuff - does someone make soap out of mare milk?
Yes, there is! The Goodfellas' Smile – Re Nero
There's also this one:
https://www.lainess.com/produit/savon-du-barbier-au-lait-de-jument-frais-bio-blue-pearl-200g/
I believe that it's produced by LPL
Oh, I saw that one in my Google search, but when I saw "asinerie" I stopped reading and thought it was just Google being "helpful".
They have both donkeys and horses, and they produce shaving soaps based on both (at first glance, I also assumed that everything was based on donkey milk, thus my question )
Why did itehaveto be TGS ? 😰
Do they make bad soap? I've never tried one
I repeatedly complained about the frag burn I got from TGS Amber Fougère – which was worse than what I had from Ariana and Evans. The soap is nothing special, and I will abstain.
Ah. I remember now, but didn't make the connection without help😅
Good enough for me. I'll probably abstain as well.
Very good question. Not too my knowledge. Mhmm
