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Bids opened Monday for a contract to supply the state Department of Education with 55,000 Bibles. According to the bid documents, vendors must meet certain specifications: Bibles must be the King James Version; must contain the Old and New Testaments; must include copies of the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights; and must be bound in leather or leather-like material.

A salesperson at Mardel Christian & Education searched, and though they carry 2,900 Bibles, none fit the parameters.

But one Bible fits perfectly: Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, endorsed by former President Donald Trump and commonly referred to as the Trump Bible. They cost $60 each online, with Trump receiving fees for his endorsement.

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 3 points 17 hours ago

So do these bibles omit all of the text and stories in the normal Bible that would qualify them for book bannings?

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Isn't it ironic that bibles sold to this agency have the documents stating there is separation of church and state included in the book?

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who tf wrote those requirements?

It seems pretty clear to me that they intended the Trump Bible to be the only one that fit all the specifications.

[–] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While it's obviously weird to want the bill of rights and declaration of independence in your Bible; let me just say, if your goal is to convert kids to Christianity, the KJV bible is just completely opaque to children that don't normally read 17th century literature.

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago

At the rate these political hacks are going, students won't be able to parse modern text.

[–] jzzvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

OH WOW! That's such a weird coincidence! Imagine the odds of that! /s

Of course they did. The thing is the way the law is written violates the Constitution by promoting an ideologically-loaded, outdated translation of the Bible used by more socially extreme groups.

  • NRSV(UE) is the gold standard nowadays.
  • Leather cover? Why? What's the point?
  • The Founding Documents to the United States do not belong in a Bible. Not everything has to be tarnished with crass "Patriotic" grift.
  • Just the Bill of Rights? The Amendments to the Constitution are legally part of the Constitution. What are they not included? Is there something in those Amendments they don't feel is appropriate?
  • This Bible has consistent poor reviews on Youtube. A number of Bible collectors, theologians, pastors, etc have panned this book for being cheaply and poorly made. It has poor print quality, it's pages stick together, are thin, and rip easy.

It should be obvious to anyone this is an ideological grift and it is criminal graft too. These criminals need to be thrown in prison for this.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you mean to tell me the requirement isn't "be a bible" ???

Did a con artist promote it for money? If so-✅

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For fuck's sake in ten years we're going to hear kids tell us the Constitution was given to us by Jesus.

[–] Sightline@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There will be no Constitution

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Yep, that’s when you start with the answer you want, then set “general” requirements that only it can meet

[–] fsr1967@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why are they putting bibles in classrooms in the first place? Did they repeal the First Amendment?

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Apparently, the State Superintendent gets to decide what gets taught in classrooms, and how it gets taught is left up to individual school districts. But it's fully within his right because no "commentary" is allowed around the Bible, just how important it was to America's history.

Why that requires a physical copy that's leather bound, I have no idea. Nor why the money has to come from the fucking payroll budget.

Oklahoma is ranked 49th in education, yet this is what we're spending money on? Seriously?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

But they are top five in propaganda training!

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

The first amendment doesn't apply to Christian evangelism.

According to SCOTUS at any rate.

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, I thought these guys were against indoctrinating children or whatever?

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 day ago

They're against anyone else indoctrinating children.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty clear they wrote the requirement to fit some recently hacked up version as opposed to the one hacked up by king james.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article states they hacked it up 2900 times at least before this one. 30k different Christian sects in the U.S. last I knew

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm sure its more than that. The really perverse thing about that is all the people that are super sure their particular flavor is right and everyone else is wrong. Its the old thing about what is a cult and what is a religion? A cult is a small unpopular religion and a religion is a large popular cult.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bible [...] must include copies of the Pledge of Allegiance, Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights

I'm sorry? Why would people mixed (modern) political text to their religious ones? Aren't people buying bibles suppose to care about their religion?

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

By making those requirements they are making sure money is diverted from teacher's paychecks an into Trump's pockers

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The goal is to abolish separation between church and state bit by bit.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the goal here is to funnel more money to Trump.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Why not both?

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

This seems more like taking a tank through a screen door. The separation is barely there to begin with.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They catered the criteria so only a single company fit the bill

[–] seth@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Is there a term for a society that has all the wealth, technology, industrial knowledge, and manpower readily at hand to be a utopia and despite that, leans hard into dystopia?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure jeebus had a thing or two to say about marketplaces of thieves and swindlers.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

"It is written, 'My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a den of robbers." -Matthew 21:13

To be clear, I don't believe in fairy tales, but they clearly don't either.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if that doesnt convince you that religion is made up on the spot for conniving convenience, nothing will

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 179 points 2 days ago

Scam to shovel taxpayer dollars to Trump.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There is no better description of the anti christ than trump.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 132 points 2 days ago

Specifically created for the grift.

Walters is a piece of shit.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump, cashing in on licensing. Like the $100K watches, where proceeds don't quite go to funding his campaign. They money goes pretty much directly to his pocket. He loves the poorly educated!

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 101 points 2 days ago

Forcing your State to buy 55000 Bibles from ONLY Trump is PROOF that DEMOCRATS are the Swamp!

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 56 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Shouldn’t Church and State doctrine (or whatever it is called) immediately make all of this illegal?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's probably purposely designed to create a court case so the Supreme Court can hollow out that principle.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 1 day ago

I will give credit to Republicans on this. They spent decades playing thre ong game with the judiciary. Now, that Republicans achieve their goal. They are now engineering facts to get cases to SCOTUS. The only way to play, is don't appeal cases. Leave the cases at the trial level or first level appeal.

Fix the judiciary, then start taking these fucks all the to top.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago

Yep! That’s why they’re counting on, throwing enough dollars at the conservative judges that they will let this theocratic bullshit stand.

Fuck them and anyone who supports their religion

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is the perfect job for the satanic temple.

The bible, complete with all American founders documents : brought to you by satan.

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