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[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.org 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Muss ich mir merken Thermit-Reaktion. Wenn dann bald die humanoiden Roboter in Kriegen eingesetzt werden (und sie endlich wissen wie Türen zu öffnen sind), dann werde ich die Terminator therminieren.

https://www.chemie-schule.de/KnowHow/Thermitreaktion

Oh, I see it’s an English thread. So, actually that will be my way of fighting the Terminator in the coming wars with Humanoid Robots (once they figured out how to handle door handles). I will thermitinate the Terminator. As a note to my future self.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

Knokator - Gladiator und Muskelkater

Knoketer - Verräter und Thermometer

Knokator - Therminate ein Terminator

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 4 weeks ago

Probably works well on fossil fuel infrastructure too. /s

[–] aisteru@lemmy.aisteru.ch 0 points 4 weeks ago (24 children)

Now, I'm all for the freedom of defending your country... But am I the only one thinking that this is presented in a bit too much of a good light? Like, what is the title supposed to make me feel? If the nationalities were reversed, would this have been posted here still?

I genuinely thank you for sharing this info, but I can't help feeling uncomfortable reading about atrocious killing devices in a technology thread.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Russia is already using thermite charges, thermobaric weapons and tear gas. They get what's coming to them.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (15 children)

Even the US uses white phosphorus against infantry in violation of international law. I can't imagine what we'd resort to with Russian soliders on our soil.

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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah I'm not sure that war crimes work that way. You don't get a pass because the opponent is doing illegal things.

[–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

I think that's exactly how it should work....

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Using incendiaries away from civilians isn’t a war crime regardless of which side uses them

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

If your enemy makes it very clear that they want to see you dead and your nation destroyed no matter the cost, why should you be beholden to giving them an advantage? Ukraine won't win with moral superiority.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

If the nationalities were reversed, would this have been posted here still?

If Russia was illegally invaded & genocided by Ukraine as a consequence for wanting to become democratic and joining the West, then yes, people would rather root for Russia instead.

If Russia don't want their men to get "atrociously killed", then they can just fuck off back into their own country.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

I'm right there with you. My first reaction to the video in the article was "well that's terrifying".

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Thermite is no joke. My initial thought was whether or not we're making the next Taliban right now. They were more fundamentalist and not seeking any kind of role in the UN but this kind of firepower is frightening in anyone's hands.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I was thinking that too. We already have other weapons that are this effective, and we've banned them.

In most cases for the banned weapons, the US got to use them for a while first, which is what's happening here.

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[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I defend Ukraine against Russia, but war is war, and war never changes. It’s been 2 years of full fighting and I can’t pretend to be okay with a continuous war even against Russia and Putin who are awful.

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[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Exactly, I hate what the Russians are doing, but as a former grunt, I'll never rejoice in killing.

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[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

well hot, damn.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

This is straight up atrocious, but Russia has been using white phosphorus during this war. No side is pristine in this conflict. War is awful, period. One thing it has shown is that Ukraine has become expert in using commodity hardware to rain death on their enemy.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago

Did someone unironically say the smell of napalm in the morning line yet?

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

this is interesting and whatnot, but during WW2, US research indicated that jellied gasoline (napalm) was a far more effective incendiary than thermite when it comes to burning wood.

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[–] Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

For those also wondering (and I’m quoting a comment on Ars so may stand corrected…):

Isn’t this a violation of the Geneva Conventions?

Only if used to deliberately target infantry. The videoed operations so far seem to have been intended to burn away protective cover (trees/brush), which is a permitted use even if there's a risk of inflicting casualties as a side effect of the application of incendiaries.

[–] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There’s a lot of people who seem to have a knee-jerk reaction to this “that’s a war crime!!1!”, but it really is not. Incendiary weapons (like thermite, white phosphorus and napalm) are not illegal to use against legitimate military targets, including enemy combatants. It’s only a war crime when it’s used indiscriminately against civilians or in civilian areas.

Lot of misinformation out there on this it seems.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Lot of misinformation out there on this it seems.

I wonder why? 🤔

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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I looked it up and you're 100% right. Incendiary weapons are fine as long as it doesn't hit civilians or intentionally start a forest fire

https://www.weaponslaw.org/weapons/incendiary-weapons

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Incendiary_Weapons

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[–] Silverseren@fedia.io 0 points 4 weeks ago

The good thing is that each usage thus far has only been in the narrow strips of hiding trees, so there's no risk of a large fire breaking out. A lot of the people whining on social media about killing trees are purposefully ignoring that fact.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Better than the gas that Russia is using illegally that causes serious pain and often takes a long time to die painfully from.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

What the actual fuck? Defend your country sure, but this isn't that.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

If you're deploying weapons on your own territory to reduce the operational capacity of an invading force then it's by definition defending your country.

If you have a problem w/ this you're going to have to cycle to the next argument because this one is nonsense. NEXT.

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Isn’t it though?

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Any invaders in that tree line are likely having a very bad time continuing their invasionary goals.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Good. As long as it doesn't target civilian areas.

Soldiers can always defect or surrender. Don't want to face Ukraine's army? Don't be in Russia's army. It's that simple.

I consider every Russian soldier complicit in this invasion of Ukraine. Otherwise they wouldn't be there.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It's that simple

It is anything but simple. Lot of them don't really have a choice.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

How do you join the military without any other choise?

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You can always try to shoot the Commisar or surrendet to Ukies. Russia isn't a democracy

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

Well, fair point. There is mutiny and defection as options. I understand the consequences for such a decision is certain death, in contrast to probable death on the field, though.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I agree, that's why I advocate for everyone to do violence on any Vietnam vet they can find

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Guess you've never been threatened with Job loss, homelessness, starvation, or anything of that sort before. Must be nice.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Oh boy! I'm hungry! Better go kill people for money!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Actually I have. But I didn't use it as sn excuse to invade Canada, and start blowing up schools and hospitals in an attempt to take over Canadian land. I didn't run around killing others for my misfortune. But if I had, I would FULLY expect the Canadian military to do anything it could to kill me.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, Arrowhead, I now want a backpack drone with this

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Not terribly difficult to cook up if you watch a couple YouTube videos.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

They are using F in Ukraine?

[–] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Fuckin hell

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