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[–] aisteru@lemmy.aisteru.ch 1 points 2 months ago (42 children)

Now, I'm all for the freedom of defending your country... But am I the only one thinking that this is presented in a bit too much of a good light? Like, what is the title supposed to make me feel? If the nationalities were reversed, would this have been posted here still?

I genuinely thank you for sharing this info, but I can't help feeling uncomfortable reading about atrocious killing devices in a technology thread.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago (10 children)

If the nationalities were reversed, would this have been posted here still?

If Russia was illegally invaded & genocided by Ukraine as a consequence for wanting to become democratic and joining the West, then yes, people would rather root for Russia instead.

If Russia don't want their men to get "atrociously killed", then they can just fuck off back into their own country.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

I do agree with you that the tone of the article doesn't really match the nature of what we're seeing, or that Ukraine is in a war of national survival.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking that too. We already have other weapons that are this effective, and we've banned them.

In most cases for the banned weapons, the US got to use them for a while first, which is what's happening here.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

And the really fun ones we refuse to sign for so technically we aren't bound by them.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That article reads as entirely neutral. Neither positive or negative. The last lines even read as a bit of a negative to me.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I take no delight in killing but Russian forces could leave Ukraine at any point and put an end to it.

[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 0 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Can the individual soldiers just give up and leave?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The vast majority of them could simply not have volunteered. Also, you can surrender.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Implying many of them are volunteers at all

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Well, they can surrender.

Not all of them all the time, but a lot of them are smart enough to do something "dumb" like drive to a Ukrainian village to ask for directions and "get taken as pows".

So yeah, yes and no, as the answer to your question.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Are their shoes tied together or something?

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[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Exactly, I hate what the Russians are doing, but as a former grunt, I'll never rejoice in killing.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

Boo fucking hoo. Most of them willingly went into Ukraine to kill, pillage, rape and torture innocent ukranians. They always have an option to desert, yet they still choose to murder. I will never have any sympathy towards them.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It's honestly no worse than dropping bombs on them. They don't have to deal with the explosive shock blowing out their ear drums either. It's way more escapade than sudden explosions havening all around you.

Besides.... if you invade a country your down with death. A bunch of the soldiers use rape and attack civilians as well, so my concern for their well being dried up a long time ago.

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