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Reinforced concrete shelters will be installed across the Kursk region, local Russian authorities announced Thursday as Ukraine keeps up its daring attack on Moscow's territory.

“Today we began to install reinforced concrete shelters in Kursk. On my instructions, the Kursk city administration identified key points for placing concrete modular shelters in crowded places,” Aleksey Smirnov, Kursk's acting governor, said in a statement.

Ukraine's surprise cross-border incursion earlier this month caught the Russians on the hop, and Kyiv's forces have expanded their offensive, capturing more towns and territory with little resistance.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 88 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Not too long ago, a Tankie demanded I find a quote of Putin saying the three days thing. As if he had to say it in some sort of press conference for pretty much the entire military leadership of Russia to say similar shit.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 80 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Putin technically never said it. Just a lot of his allies and media people did.

Not that it really matters in the end. Russia was quite sure to take the country in less than a week and failed misserably

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

To be fair, I listened to a lot of military analysts that studied the first few days of the war and Russia was really fucking close to decapitating Kyiv. Ukraine just came in clutch in the crucial moments, Zelensky survived multiple assasination attempts, Ukranian forces prevented the taking of the Hostomel airport, and Ukranian forces were forward deployed (without having being given orders) prevented attacks into the city. Any one of those failed and Russia could have actually taken Kyiv in a couple weeks.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The best story I read about the defence of Hostomel was that UAF was handing out weapons to civilians in order to defend the airport.

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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

They were not that close, they just drove in from Belarus and dropped some paratroopers with no support. That's a good strategy for losing your best troops.

They also didn't use a few days of bombing to soften up the targets. Ukraine was surprised but all of their equipment was intact. That's like number one in any attack plan.

They basically underestimated the Ukrainians and thought they would just run away. Those paratroopers were very good but they are only scary to local police, not to a trained military. Without heavy support, they were sitting ducks at the airport.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I’d be careful with these analysts, they’re mainly in the self-promoting business so they make up the most dramatic stories to sell themselves to the media.

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[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Is it safe to say that Zelensky is a total badass at this point? (And throughout the past 3 years)

[–] ours@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And it's also a famously common mistake. WWI initially had a bunch of countries happily go to a quick and decisive little war.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Hell I remember Cheney (or was it rumsfelt) in 2003 talking about how Iraq would be ready for America to pull out within a year.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

They'll always be home by Christmas.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Nah, there's leaked emails of FSB feeding Putin the info that they could take Kyiv in 3 days.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Exactly. he didn't have to say it.

[–] walden 33 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The tankies love demanding proof.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And generally they want proof that one specific thing literally happened when that isn't really the issue.

"Oh yeah? Quote Xi Jinping saying he doesn't like being compared to Winnie the Pooh!"

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (5 children)

.... dunno if there's a quote of it. but like... Winnie is one of the most heavily censored things in china.

Which is funny. Because Pooh is cute, and aside from being a bit daft, isn't particularly offensive. Now... Erdogan has it bad. he Keeps having to have people arrested for being compared to gollum.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We always have that video of Erdogan getting kicked in the nuts by that horse, at least

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m gonna need a link on that.

You know. For, uhm, a study on internet censorship.

Also, uhm, anyone know a good AI to change Someone’s voice into a high pitched gollum voice….

…. Asking for a friend….

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Oh that’s even better than I imagined.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Right. That's what I'm saying. They demand proof of something that you don't need to bother proving because that specific thing does not matter.

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Bro, there are people in a local groupchat that think the great leap forward was a good thing and are self-proclaimed history buffs obsessed with the years 1939-1945, specifically in Russia and China.

They harken back to it as a better time, not realizing the irony of it while being a queer American. It's exquisitely painful to watch 💀

I always confront those people with "and what do you think would happen to YOU in such a place? History doesn't think it will be good" but then they double down or make some mental gymnastic leap to why it's okay.

Surely the leopards won't eat THEIR face.

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[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

And then proof does not come from a Tankie Wiki or a blatant APT run website - "lol fucking fake disinfor libtard".

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's not like they'll believe it anyway.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sometimes of the most trivial things.

A conservative once asked me for proof that bikes have a lower co2 manufacturing footprint than a car. It's funny how they tend to share tactics.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sea lioning, for those curious what it's called.

[–] walden 3 points 1 month ago

I had no idea it had a name. Good to know.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

Sea lions gotta sealion.

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[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Didn't they March in with victory day parade attire in their backpacks instead of a second round of ammunition, or rations?

Said or unsaid, even if the war was going exactly as planned, it's a shit war that's executed poorly and will destroy the Russian economy and likely end up losing everything they took, even Crimea.

If all the joint chiefs and secretaries of [thing] said "we will be marching in Ottowa in 3 days" it really doesn't matter if the president said it. Because even if he hasn't said it in a press conference to the world, he most certainly agrees with the people who DO think it's a slam dunk.

I'm sure anything you said or linked would have been met with "that's western propaganda" like they're not shaking hands with MAGAts screeching fake news at things they don't like.

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You had control, right?

...RIGHT?

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm a simple person. I see a post about Ukraine I say Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

"I'm a simple man and i like simple pleasures."

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 55 points 1 month ago

Btw. Shelters are to guard against their own artillery and bombing.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Good. Slava Ukraini

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago

The concrete won't even be cured by the time they need em.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How do you spell "Maginot Line" in Cyrillic?

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

сука блять линия

[–] suction@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

А ну чики-брики и в дамки!

[–] L3mmyW1nks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Линия Мажино

According to DeepL

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Couldn't have happened to a nicer dictatorship.

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