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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Depends on how you say it and in which context.

[–] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A shrug and a β€œpretty good” = acceptable, not worth complaining about.

A slow grin first or it being said loudly = better than good, great.

Although this depends on how emotive the speaker is.

[–] kafa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

if someone shrugs with pretty good

or shrugs with good

to me the former is still better than the latter.

I don't see a way for pretty good to mean less than good

[–] neptune@dmv.social 6 points 1 year ago

Wow! Pretty good!

Vs

That was pretty good, but....

[–] pturn1@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

My Bad-to-Good spectrum would be:

Bad

Pretty bad

Fairly bad

Fairly good

Pretty good

Good

[–] waratchess@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would rate pretty bad as worse than bad.

[–] pturn1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"It's not bad, but it's still pretty bad" is a phrase I can see myself saying. Not sure about the other way round - doesn't really work for me, but to each their own...

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see it as similar to "very bad", which would be worse than just "bad".

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think both are correct depending on the inflection

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think it's contextual.

[–] cujo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to say my bad-to-good ratio is probably:

Pretty bad

Bad

Not good

Ok <- Neutral

Not bad

Pretty good

Good

Which I now realize is a little weird to have "ok" be neutral, with not bad/good on either side of it.

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, it all depends on tone of voice, and what word is emphasized. β€œPretty good!” generally means better than expected. β€œPretty good” is like β€œGood, but…”

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither, really. I use it to mean "more than expected". Like, if my kids insist I watch a cartoon with them, and I enjoy it, i'd say it's "pretty good". Or if a coworker said something awful about a customer, I might say the comment was "pretty mean".

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

This seems like the right take. It's based on expectations.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worse.

See also: "Pretty close"

Ha, exactly.

Not many options for a little less than good without people getting offended.

"Kinda good" or "almost good" definitely would upset people.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

it can mean "decent, better than I expected"

or

"good, but not exceptional or memorable"

[–] Adramis@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generally better, but it's contextual. Someone saying with a surprised tone "It was pretty good" implies that it's better than good and better than expected, and that the person might not have expected it to be good. Someone saying with a muted or dull "It was good..." would be worse than "pretty good" and implies that it was acceptable but disappointing or mediocre.

[–] PizzaDeposit@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think for me it's generally the same but I'm not a native English speaker so idk lol

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

"Hey that was actually a pretty good performance for a beginner!" vs. "Well that was also pretty good..."

[–] rich@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm British

Therefore it ranges from "utter fucking shite but I'll say it a different way" to "moderately utter bollocks but bearable" right up to "yeah it's alright"

Depends on the tone.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say it means goodish

[–] I_Am_Jacks_____@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it depends on what expectations were.

You and your friends make a horror movie and it's better than you thought: Hey, that's pretty good.

Steven Spielberg makes a mediocre horror movie: It was pretty good.

[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I use 'pretty good' to pretend I have an opinion about something, rather than it being a moral judgement:

How was the film? Pretty good vs.
How was the film? Good.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Pretty good is less than good.

Depends on tone.

[–] tko@tkohhh.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't imagine how "pretty good" could mean "better than good." Most of the examples posted here are talking about how something relates to your expectations, but that's not the question. Yes, "pretty good" is often used to describe something that is better than expected, but that doesn't make it better than "good."

For example, it doesn't make sense to say "$50 is good, but $100 is pretty good!"

I do think "pretty good" is often used as an understated way to say that something is very good, e.g. "Yeah, Messi is pretty good at soccer." However, that's a play on the actual meaning of the phrase, and should not be construed as the actual meaning.

[–] Sylver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I see β€œpretty good” to be better than just β€œgood”. It seems obvious to me, considering one is only good but the other is pretty good.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It would totally depend on my enthusiasm. More often, though, it means worse.

Worse: "Yeah, it's pretty good. But..." <- Talking about a game or a movie

Better: "Whoa! This is pretty good!" <- Food!

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Intonation can carry the meaning.

In the UK, pretty good can mean anything from "not as bad as I thought it would be" to just "OK" or "pretty good! :D"

[–] init@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good

Pretty good

Really/Very good

Extremely good

Great

Pretty great

Really/very great

Extremely great

Awesome

...

[–] OldFartPhil@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not necessarily worse, but more ambiguous than if I say something is good.

[–] AppaYipYip@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yea for me "pretty good" is an estimate around good. Like using -ish. I don't want to say it was good but it was around good.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I always thought pretty good was better than good. Honestly surprised to find out I may have been wrong my entire life.

Good>pretty good

The word good is a stronger affirmative imo

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Still@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

pretty good is less good than good

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Worse. Sometimes just a little worse than good, sometimes it's medium or negative but you're just trying to be nice. "How did you like the liver and onions I cooked for you?". "It was pretty good."

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I learned about it the other day. Apparently native English speakers know than non native use it in a more positive way then they do

[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It's not just good, it's good enough!

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

Same as good but it has limited impact

[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.ninja 1 points 1 year ago

Generally, for me, it means something less than entirely "good."

The times I'm most likely to use it are when I'm finding minor fault with something - "Well... it was pretty good, but..." or when something is better than I expected, but not quite fully good - "Hey! That was actually pretty good!"

[–] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] mawkishdave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When we say something the words have more impact than the word itself.