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US President Joe Biden has said he is not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

"[Trump] means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all this stuff about ‘if we lose it will be a bloodbath’.”

Mr Trump’s comment that it would “be a bloodbath for the country” if he loses the election, made as he was talking about the auto industry in March, triggered a wave of criticism.

The Trump campaign, however, said the comment was specifically about the auto industry and had been deliberately taken out of context. It sent a fundraising email which said Trump’s political opponents and others had been "viciously" misquoting him.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 139 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But there's been so many.

"Dictator on day one"

"You won't have to vote anymore"

Those are just the two off the top of my head as I'm heading back into work on my lunch break.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 73 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Everything bad Trump ever says is either "a joke" or "out of context."

Weird how often he says things that everyone things he means and then he doesn't mean them. I sure wouldn't vote for a guy like that. He's weird.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

What's even in context for him? He jumps around so much there is no context.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 81 points 3 months ago (5 children)

lol classic biden

come on joe, it's been established that you can "say it like it is":

trump is going to incite riots and violent insurrection, he's going to demand the military stage a coup, he's going to call for civil war. trump is 100% going to attempt 1/6 ver 2.0 and there isn't a human being over 5 on the planet who doesn't know that to be the case

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The one thing I am fairly certain about though is that, assuming riots like that are happening in D.C., Biden will not hesitate to send out forces to stop it. Trump could have but didn't want to.

There might be a few more Ashley Babbits this time.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ah gotta love the old "just try breaking into my house and i'll introduce you to my shotguns!!!" crowd lamenting over the cold blooded "murder" of someone breaking into not-her-property

and yea. if these maga chucklefucks think DC is going to be the same soft cushy environment it was in 2021, then they're even dumber than i thought. which is pretty fucking dumb. in addition to the dozens of snipers (that are visible), i'd be surprised if there's a square inch of space in the whole motherfucker that isn't covered by at least 4 cameras.

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[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My dad tried to talk about how "they just killed her" a while back...

I was like: they gave her a lawful order. She was literally breaking into one of the most secure facilities in the world. She saw the trained men with the loaded firearms pointed at her and proceeded to move through a broken down door..

And then don't forget that oath... From all threats foreign and domestic.. she was a domestic threat. And the agent removed that threat.

Shut him right up.

These idiots want to fafo? I hope dark Brandon is waiting for them.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 months ago

And she had military training and knew exactly what orders that guy had, so she knew it was going to happen, she was just betting that they wouldn't dare or that their group of insurrectionists would overpower them. But she failed on every count and paid with her life.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 69 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is the entire quote:

"No, we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's going to be the least of it, it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it. But they're not going to sell those cars, they're building massive factories."

The context is talking about Chinese cars, but the bit where he says "it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it." really looks to me like he's saying there will be a bloodbath in general if he doesn't get elected, the one in the car industry being small compared to it.

I don't know why I'm spending time and energy examining the idiotic ramblings of the orange gibbon.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I understand he is talking about cars... but that's not how anyone has taken it...

As a left centrist in a deep deep red state. I've got yet another firearm on order currently.

My politics boil down to

I want my state sponsored medically insured gay married neighbors and their adopted freely educated children to be able to protect their legally grown pot plants with fully automatic ak47s.

Lol

Hilariously those beliefs are sins in the face of my neighbor's... Which blows my mind.

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[–] Shawdow194@kbin.run 17 points 3 months ago

The context is great! Its exactly like his other interjections - usually uncorrelated and exactly what's really go in his mind

His bigot blurts are about the only truth he speaks

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago (12 children)

I think Biden, being freed up and all, should spend some time fortifying the election results. I know the election is inherently flawed but there should be systems in place to stop another Jan 6th. Do some maintenance. Get commitments from the states themselves. Jus saying.

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (59 children)

Ditch the electoral college, certify the election with a popular vote, adopt ranked choice.

But then the 1% would become the 10% and I'm sorry but that just won't do, it's a very nuanced system that boils down to Rich good Poor bad. /s

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He can't just change the Constitution.

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's absolutely true. However with the SCOTUS rulings as of late regarding the Executive branch, it could be fun to try.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If we ever get a trifecta again we need to kill the filibuster and then pass a law to expand Congress so the EC is effectively locked to the national result. As a bonus it seriously hurts lobbyists and gives us better representation.

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Roll back Citizens United while we're at it.

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[–] TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well - why would he be? Trump didn't accept it last time, and this is well and truly the end of the road for him if he doesn't win. He's 77 as it is, but zero point zero zero zero zero percent chance he gets this close again.

And the cost of not winning is monumental. It's victory or destruction for the vulgar talking yam. If he's no longer of any use to Russia, imagine what information might come out about him, especially if they themselves descend into instability.

Trump never accepts any defeat, ever. It's always a disgrace, the worst, most nasty this and that that's so unfair to him. Of course he's not going to accept a defeat. What the adults do about it is the important variable.

Given his legal trouble, he very truly could either be president or imprisoned. he probably has less money than he wants us to believe, fleeing to Russia or Venezuela etc isn't really an option. His money will just be seized by the state and he will be disposed of as an impotent, toothless old hippo, only capable of making noise, with no more use to offer anyone.

Yeah it's pretty obvious to everyone that it's all or bust for trump. He's desperate. Nothing to lose.

They're already strategising how to steal the election. They're already on record saying they know exactly who to call when it's time to validate the results from each state.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

If he’s no longer of any use to Russia, imagine what information might come out about him,

Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Then fucking DO something about it. Publicly get the national guard to guard Washington or whatever. Talking about it just encourages them.

[–] glizzard@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I think this is probably him starting to connect those dots for the public. His immediate publicity regarding SCOTUS reform following dropping out was the first hint. He understands what they’re doing.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

This is him laying the stage for that.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 39 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I predict riots regardless of who wins.

The only way to avoid it is if either side wins with a landslide, showing that the majority of the country is for the elected winner.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I doubt it. trump appears to have lost a lot of persuasive power.

If Harris wins, I'm pretty sure all the conservatives are going to slink back under rocks for the next few years.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If Harris wins, a lot of places where Trump "should have" won are going to falsely claim fraud and refuse to certify their votes, leading to another Jan 6.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 42 points 3 months ago

The damage Trump and his ilk have done to this country by undermining the public trust in some of the best run elections in the world is incalculable. It will be decades if ever before that damage is undone.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Guaranteed they've already figured out the specific people they need to put pressure on when the time comes.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Here in Georgia, I've got a front-row seat:

(Reminder: Georgia is the state that not only went blue in 2020, but also saved the Democratic majority in the Senate.)

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I would respectfully disagree with that assessment.

Even if 2024 is a huge enough electoral wipe out that Trump and his MAGA base are embarrassed to follow through on the violence they’ve been promising for years. Yes, Republicans might slink away and hide.

But they will rebrand and be back within a few months. We’ve seen this before at the start of the Obama Presidency’, when the fall out from the G.W. Presidency showed that Republicans had shit the bed sooo hard, even hard core Republicans that I knew denied they ever supported W. (Even though a few had fucking pictures of the asshat on their office walls for years.)

But the useful idiots that make up the core of the Republican base were back in a few months as “Tea Party” Republicans. Fully funded and promoted Koch and other billionaires. All those hard core W. supporters suddenly got angry and jumped on that band wagon.

Make no mistake they will be back, even in the best case scenario. (Which I very much doubt will happen.)

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, guess I better Pokemon Go to the polls.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago

A landslide will convince people it was rigged.

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[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 29 points 3 months ago

Translation: There will be enough military force there to snuff out any bullshit Dementia Don the weird racist rapist with 34 felonies brings.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Of course he's gonna try it again, you took it far too lightly last time. Maybe Kamala will enforce the law

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[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

It sent a fundraising email

Trump's response to everything, good, bad, indifferent, or wildly spun

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Trump said he doesn't need the votes which is far scarier. They need to fear the consequences of trying to steal democracy from us.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Cool. Put machine gun nests in the capital this time.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Taken out of context" MFers when they actually read the primary sources of the Confederacy (⁠ノ⁠ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ⁠)⁠ノ⁠彡⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People fear that the person who incited a mass riot the last time they lost an election will incite a mass riot if he loses this election?

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[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Biden can literally guarantee the peaceful transition of power to Harris. Whatever he chooses to do is an official act, right? So do whatever it takes to put down any bullshit, Joe.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He's saying there's a chance a third party tries to make it violent.

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[–] IceHouse@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

US is a broken system, if it isn't this time it's next.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Might want the national guard on standby this time then. Dont wait for the legislators to waffle it

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Gee, you think the guy who was the first president not to support a peaceful transfer of power, who tried to subvert the government by an organized mob, and who hasn't expressed any wrongdoing at all might not be nice about it this time?

My only quibble is that the transfer of power itself will be fine, because it would be between Biden and Harris. Trump wouldn't have any official power, and anything he and his supporters do couldn't be interpreted as official acts.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

None of use are, Joe. None of us.

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