Lol I actually had to check to make sure this wasn't published on April 1st. Missed joke opportunity, this is hilarious
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Tangential: Is there any community for mice akin to the mechanical keyboard community?
Would love to buy an alternative but every time I do any research it boils down to "razer or logitech" with everything else being orders of magnitude shittier.
Haha more like a never mouse
I’ll pass
This is moronic if we let this nonsense continue how long until we have to subscribe for a microwave, tv, hifi, salt grinder etc.
Stop giving these things money please.
A brand, that hasn't sold anything with good software/firmware, is trying to make a software-focused product. Peak comedy
!fucksubscriptions@lemmy.world
My Halo account name is fuckmandatorysignins@personalDomain.com
Fuck you Microsoft, fuck you Logitech, if the Internet goes down, I'm fucked...
I always give “companyname@personaldomain.com”
That way datasets are harder to correlate and I know who leaked 😝
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Oh man I was hoping this would be a sub for alternatives to subscriptions, rather than just pointing out that everything is going to a subscription model.
It's not against the rules of that community to post alternatives. I suspect the community members would love that.
Alternative to subscription based mouse.......any other fucking mouse. Hell, I'd rather use that piece of crap they sell at walgreens for $15.99. It looks like crap, has only 2 buttons, is wired, but it doesn't have a damn subscription.
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Oh neat, I think I might subscribe to that community.
Wait a goddamned minute
To be fair they only said having a subscription for the accompanying software was a 'possibility', not that it would need one, and that it would be likely to be in the ~$200 price range, and with upgradeability and repairability in mind, as well as reliant on software updates.
Honestly depending on how much they lean toward the subscription and/or software update reliance having a mouse designed to last a lifetime and be upgradeable and repairable would be nice, even at a rather higher price point.
I already pay a subscription when I have to keep buying the hardware designed to break. I don't think I've ever had a middle mouse button working for long.
It's so much bullshit and it's getting shittier.
It’s so much bullshit and it’s getting shittier.
Unclear if you're talking about technology, or life.
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I don't understand what you all are doing with your mice. I've had mine for years, and the one before it, years. I only changed because I wanted to upgrade, too.
Meanwhile I'm always on Discord with my buddy complaining that his mouse broke, again. This mf fingers must weigh a fk ton bruh.
lots of people smack their mice on the table out of rage.
Do that a lot, and they will not last very long
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If it's a G502/702, they've got a very fucky scroll wheel & middle click; it's actually a lemon, but since nothing else works with the wireless pads they're the only options.
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I really hope there aren't people stupid enough to buy or even want that.
Uh, what would I be paying for, exactly? I don't really see what Software support a mouse really needs, as long as it doesn't ship buggy. Also, I've been using my (Logitech, funnily) mouse for 6 years now, and if you ignore the few scratches it has gathered, it still works pretty much perfectly.
Also, if their solution for a longer lasting mouse really is repairability, isn't that just their way of saying "we designed our other products to be thrown away"?
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Wait is this an onion?
Arent mouse already "forever" mice. Like what goes wrong in them? I've never had a wired laser mouse fail, and the batteries ones I usually lose the adapter or let it corrode before the mouse actually fails
And if anything I only buy a new mouse for aesthetics. Or when their old mouse is grody
The switches eventually fail, but most mice use the same Omron switches and they are easy enough to replace if you know how to solder. The teflon skates wear out too, but you can find replacement for most name brand mice online.
By "forever" they mean you will be paying them forever for the privilege of using the mouse. Unless you break it that is, or they feel like they no longer want to support it at which point it will likely become a forever brick.
Or when their old mouse is grody
That's planned obsolescence. They cover the mouse in soft touch plastic that turns to glue in 5 years. It ensures that you buy a new mouse every 5 years while claiming they are reliable.
I read that acetone transforms the gluely soft touch coating to hard plastic. I did it to my old Logitech when it got grody and it is still not grody after 20 years.
They cover the mouse in soft touch plastic that turns to glue in 5 years
This is my pet peeve of modern electronics in general. Even my $3000 work-supplied Dell laptop is coated in this soft touch material that will inevitably turn into a gooey mess after a few years 🤦♂️
Also own a second-hand tablet computer that feels disgusting and sticky to hold because the soft touch coating has degraded so badly on it 😭
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I had the wheel button stop working on it once, it was still usable, just annoying, when I needed to do a middle click.
Also that happened after a decade of use.
I've had buttons stop working. The mechanism inside that registers the click is a mechanical switch and they eventually die
Ask a razer user if their mouse/keyboard last forever.
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When companies that sell physical products like peripherals (as an example) try to invoke the subscription model, it just says that they are failing and desperate for profits. Which means that other products are available and better.
Except their mice are built better and last longer than any of the popular gaming brands. I've owned 4 logitech nice in my life and that would be every mouse I've owned since 1995 and only one of those actually died. People complain about their razer mice lasting 3 years and then go out and buy another one as if that's normal meanwhile you can easily get 5+ years out of a logitech mouse.
5 years isn't a long lifespan.
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I’m kind of surprised they haven’t decided to do what MS does with controller, or smart watch manufacturers do with watch bands. Create unique collectible colors, have a design lab, etc. Let people treat mice like sunglasses. A fashion accessory that you occasionally change or augment for aesthetic reasons.
I don’t need a new mouse ever year, but I might be down to change it’s shell.
Please don't. we already produce and waste a lot of plastic as it is
Hilarious. Logitech’s software has always been an afterthought and now they want me to pay for it? Goooo fuck yourselves. I had to sell a perfectly good keyboard and mouse because their stupid g-hub is harder to navigate than a g-spot.
It kept doing updates and every time it did, it would clobber all my macros and bindings and basically factory reset. I had a txt document on my desktop with all my configs so I could set them back up whenever it decided the configuration gods required a sacrifice.
G-hub also doesn't work on Linux, which is actually a massive advantage. I use Solaar with a couple of shell scripts and it's amazing.
.....I feel sorry for your girlfriend/wife.
Go on, tell us how you work the spot, G Man.
You basically have to go behind the clitoris and stimulate it from the back while working it from the front with your tongue.
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My girlfriend doesn’t have one, teehee 🤭
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I didn’t see Sonos being dropped from my list of companies to buy products from in 2024, is Logitech joining that list this year too?
On the right track it seems!
An idea for a mouse I will never buy in a million years
"Oooh! we wanna help the environment! Look at how green we are! It's gonna last you a lifetime. Such quality. Such emotional investment into your personal mouse!"
Bitch! You are just inventing stupid ideas about how to turn a hardware company into a service company, because you know that is where the money is.
Vance Packard warned us, in his book, The Waste Makers.
How exactly are software updates supposed to extend the life of a mouse?
I get that theoretically with a subscription, they could offer to replace your mouse if the hardware broke. (Sortof like an extended warranty that you reup every month or year or whatever. Not that that isn't a scam, but I can at least see how it could maybe look good on paper to certain people.) But that has nothing to do with software.
If the software breaks due to a software problem (and, be honest, how many people in the history of the world have ever had a mouse break due to a software problem?), I'd think it would be unlikely you could get an update to the mouse. And if the hardware breaks, the chance that it can be fixed (or even worked around) with a software update seems negligible.
Are they thinking with software updates they'll make it continue to support newer wireless communication protocols that don't exist yet or some BS like that? Not that that makes sense either.
Am I missing something or is the BS in this idea more evident than in most?
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Company that makes Mice: Hey, what if we actually built a good mouse!
This is why Chinese knock offs are winning.
Not because of price, but because of shit like this.
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