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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

If only we had the technology to open doors without power. One day, perhaps.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or the foresight to have a small backup battery unit used exclusively for emergencies like say when the battery goes out or when someone reverses their car into a lake. The fact these are such death traps shows just how bad the US is when it comes to giving a flying fuck about people over money.

And all the while Elon is touted as some kind of super Lex Lutherian genius.

Honestly if I wrote a fictional book with some of the shit he's done and how the world looks at him publishers would throw it back in my face as being the most unbelievable POS they've read in the past 20 years.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (9 children)

have a small backup battery

As far as I understand, that 12V battery was that backup...

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nope it's a separate battery used like in a normal car to power the low voltage stuff so you don't have to use high grade power lines to run the windows and doors

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I should have said a small battery backup done properly knowing full well the abysmal QA of that company.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Oh, well, then, ...

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (12 children)

I still dont like something that is electric powered making it so you cant get through a door. If there is a short, the battery dies (which it will someday) or generally bad parts could potentially lead to a preventable death. Cars were made so keys (or key like) can open the door no matter what. And especially in the heat everyone is going through in the US.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

Ya I hear you. I don’t even like driving modern cars because they are all electrical and the pedals feel like video game controls. But nothing in the Tesla is built well. I fully believe it possible to build a full proof battery backup and not just hook up a random 12v that probably suffers from the same abysmal QA as the rest of the car.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (8 children)

But how do you integrate a subscription fee into analog doors? You can‘t enshitify that!!

[–] Toes@ani.social 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Oh that's easy, just make it a one time release switch. You gotta replace the ~~door~~ battery after using it.

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[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Until then we've included a complimentary hammer with each Tesla.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact a car was approved that doesn't have a manual way to open doors from inside and outside and start it is ludicrous. That's basic-ass level shit. NHTSA is asleep at the wheel.

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[–] ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Tesla didn’t respond to a request for comment; it has dissolved its press office.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like journalists can just make shit up and publish it. "Telsa declined to comment." so I guess it's true until corrected.

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

MadLad that Elmo is

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Let me fill in for them then: "We CoUlDn'T PoSsIbLy pReDiCt ThAt tHiS wAs GoInG tO hApPeN!"

That's the usual typical Corporate bad faith answer to whenever a serious consequence that everyone could see coming but they kept ignoring finally happens.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Does it also send a poop emoji now?

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[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

where's the manual door release?

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] nailingjello@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Inside the car (sadly). No manual release on the outside.

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[–] ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (16 children)

According to a report from Arizona’s Family:

The 12-volt battery that powers the car’s electronics died without warning.

Tesla drivers are supposed to receive three warnings before that happens, but the Tesla service department confirmed that Sanchez didn’t receive any warnings.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Wish Version Iron Man:

"Really? Do you think its 2010 again?

This is the fuuuuuuttttuuurrreeee!!!"

snorts Ketamine and twirls out the door

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Whenever essential functions (e.g. access) are powered, they're supposed to have manual overrides. I'm pretty sure this is a regulatory requirement even here in the States where we're stupid and regulatory agencies are mostly captured.

So WTF happened, Tesla? Where's the manual override for when the battery fails?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

That's for if you're inside, a mechanical access has to exist on the outside as well, no?

[–] DBNinja@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can also "jump" the car to open it via a 12V access port in the front.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Yeah, doesn't help much in case of actual emergency does it?

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The car’s owner, Renee Sanchez, was taking her granddaughter to the zoo, but after loading the child in the Model Y, she closed the door and wasn’t able to open it again. “My phone key wouldn’t open it,” Sanchez said in an interview with Arizona’s Family. “My car key wouldn’t open it.” She called emergency services, and firefighters were dispatched to help.

Just so nobody thinks someone left a kid in the car and then went into a store or something. Tesla should be paying for the broken window repair at the very least.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Really interesting design decision. Was the main battery also dead? I'm guessing not. There's a step-down converter under the rear seat that outputs 12-16 volts, Tesla could probably have fairly easily set the car up to power the doors from that when the auxiliary 12V battery dies.

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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Does the indoor lever (hidden) not work without the battery too?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure, but 20 month old toddler...

[–] Blackout@kbin.run 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The only sensible solution then is to ban toddlers from EVs. They'll just have to walk.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 5 months ago

Just strap them into a stroller tethered to the back of the EV.

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[–] nailingjello@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, the interior manual release works without power, but the only person in the car was a toddler in a car seat and they were not able to open it themselves.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Woke toddler was working for Big Baby to make Tesla look bad

Also, firefighters are just beefy sexy shills for the axe industry

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 0 points 5 months ago

I though it was working against Big Baby *ahem*

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago

Oh great! So someone couldn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps and now they want a hand-out. I bet this "toddler" doesn't even pay taxes.

/s

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My 1998 Honda Civic SE hatchback was all manual. Manual windows with the canks, manual door locks, manual steering (no power steering), no braking assist, no assist of ANY kind in fact, and a manual transmission. It was basically an engine, four wheels and a steering wheel.

If EV manufacturers could make cars that are closer to my old Civic, with the only difference being the engine being swapped for an electric motor, I would switch in a heartbeat. For now I'll stick with my 2010 Mazda 3, which I barely use except for the occasional trip to my family or friends who are out of the city or to do my groceries once a week. Until cars start using manual controls for essentials like door handles and locks, audio systems and temperature control, I want none of it.

I'm already having trouble with touch screen tablets when I'm not driving, let alone when I need to focus on the damn road.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you but I'm still hesitant because I like my manual transmission

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