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What alternate Youtube frontends are there? And which ones do you recommend? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 year ago by moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I've heard of piped due to the piped-link bot, but I am curious about others.

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[–] lukas@lemmy.haigner.me 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Friendly reminder that Grayjay is only source-available.

FUTO Temporary License (FTL) violates the following open-source principles:

  • Open source licenses must allow free redistribution. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  • Open source licenses must allow source code distribution. FTL allows restrictions to access the code at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  • Open source licenses must allow modifications. FTL allows modifications only for non-commercial use, or maybe not even that. FTL dodges the word modifications here, no clue.
  • Open source licenses must explicitly allow distribution of software built from modified source code. FTL forbids distribution of software built from modified source code for commercial use.
  • Open source licenses must not discriminate against persons/groups and fields of endeavor. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.

The FTL enables the following practices:

  • Copyright holders can change the license terms.
  • Copyright holders can re-license everything.
  • Copyright holders can target specific groups and individuals with discriminatory license terms.
  • Copyright holders can close source everything.
  • Copyright holders can forbid specific groups and individuals from using their work.

My main gripe here is that the video sells a source-available software with severe usage restrictions as open-source. These restrictions may sound reasonable to people outside of the open-source world, especially to people who use similar wording in their own terms of service, but nobody would touch your software with a ten foot pole with a software license like that.

[–] crit@links.hackliberty.org -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't? Louis spends quite a bit of time going over why they aren't fully open source and how they've arrived at that result.

[–] lukas@lemmy.haigner.me 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not quite sure what you mean? Louis calls it open-source during the entire "This is open source, but it is NOT free!" segment. But what he describes as open-source is not open-source, but source-available.

[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

"This is open source, but it is NOT free!" segment

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Good bot (and it's also open source, the actual kind)

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The reasoning that he doesn't want it to be used like newpipe is really optimistic on his part. People break license all the time on much larger applications.