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I used to pay for premium just because it was the simplest way to watch ad free on my phone (IOS so Vanced was not an option), and being able to download videos to watch later on a flight was nice.
But then they wouldn’t let you do Picture in Picture from the app, which, like, fine. Annoying but I’ll just play it in the background and just listen to the audio.
But then they started forcing the tiktok clone onto the home page and subscriptions page. I really do not like the dopamine disinformation vortex. So I deleted the app and just started watching them through the website, which actually enabled Picture in Picture and let me hide the shorts shelf (for 30 days before I have to click the X again.)
Now I’ve just stopped paying for it and just watch YouTube in the Firefox Focus IOS browser which completely blocks YouTube ads in my experience. It won’t let me do Picture in Picture or play audio in the background on their website, but I’ve noticed embedded YouTube videos on other websites will.
So now I’m looking in to using other front ends so I can have complete normal functionality without having to watch adds or pay them money and have their stupid tik tok clone shoved down my throat.
Good job Google, you managed to completely alienate someone who was paying you cash. Now I’m the definition of a free rider on your service.
ReVanced can patch your YouTube client (even without root) and add (your choice of) features, for example adblocking, picture in picture, playing in background as well ad quality of life improvents like hiding the "block" of news videos, remove reels or certain buttons
They said they're on IOS.
Hmm. I've always had premium so never looked into ReVanced. I knew it existed, but didn't realise it might be useful for more than just bypassing ads.
Most of these should be regular settings. I want several of them. My biggest bugbear is shorts. But I also want to be rid of those little popup things and the overlay cards at the end of a video.
The reviews on the play store make this sound like a pretty trash app. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong one...
Revanced isn't in an app store (at least not a legit version), you have to build it yourself. Otherwise it would probably end like Vanced. Take care of scam websites, this is the real one: https://revanced.app/
Or check this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/xlcny9/revanced_manager_guide_for_dummies/ (yes, it's Reddit, but the guide was really useful to me 🤷♂️)
Thanks, that's much different! lol This looks pretty involved. Does it need to be updated all the time as Youtube updates, similar to NewPipe? Because NewPipe is a pain to keep updated but it also a lot less work. lol
ReVanced doesn't really require frequent updates. After modifying the YouTube app, I disable auto updates and keep using it until something doesn't work properly (usually ads reappear)- Happens maybe every 4-5 months for me.
For example, the YouTube version I'm using right now is 18.23.35 from June 10th, while the newest version that can be patched with ReVanced is 18.35.44. But since I haven't seen any issues, I didn't even bother to check for updates. Only your comment made me check and realize that I can update it.
What I usually do is tell the Play Store to not update it. Also, I don't think it's that involved. Take this with a grain of salt because I'm pretty experienced with phone modification, but I think it's just downloading the file, opening it, selecting YouTube, choosing what modifications you want, and installing it.
I don't find it at all annoying to keep NewPipe up to date.
I think you may need to take a look at Obtainium.
Anything revanced on the play store is fake. You cannot get Revanced from the play store. https://revanced.app/
https://github.com/ReVanced/revanced-manager
If you're open to recommendations, sideloading uYou+ (via altstore or other methods, no jailbreak needed) is sort of like ReVanced but for iOS.
There's also Yattee which is on the App Store or you can sideload it. It can connect to a Piped or Invidious instance to play YouTube vids.
Both of them are open source if that's important for you
uYou+ is no longer maintained. I use uYouPlusExtra: https://github.com/arichorn/uYouPlusExtra
Thanks, I’ll look in to that.
Maybe it's an iOS thing, but I can definitely do PiP with Premium on the official app on Android.
It may be different now, but when IOS first added PiP is was super inconsistent with the YouTube app, it worked one week, then the app updated and it didn’t work, then the next week it worked if you were logged in, then only with premium, then only if you were not logged in, then it would exit out of it it the first time you opened it but not the second time you opened PiP
It was just… a mess and it almost felt like there was some back and fourth going on between Apple and Google over how it was implemented.
I can do PiP on iOS with my premium subscription.
PiP works on iOS, even without premium (with some restrictions). At least it did very recently, I have premium now though so I can’t verify as of today
I can do PiP on Firefox android by playing the video in fullscreen and returning home. There's an add on for FF, Video Background Play Fix, that allows me to play in the background as well.
A bit of an aside, but did you use speech to text to post this?
No, I’m just bad at proof reading and a clumsy typer/ not the best with written grammar
That's cool. Was curious more than anything else.
Impression I got, too.
Check out uYou+ with AltStore. It lets you enable PiP and background play, and I think you can disable shorts and such.
Try Yattee. Piped client for iOS. You do have to do weird setup because the app needs to pretend to not be a Piped client. Otherwise, Piped or Invidious website.
The brave browser allows you to Picture in Picture and blocks ads!
AdGuard for iOS blocks YouTube ads. Adblock Pro has an “open in PiP mode” button that lets you open videos in PiP without YT premium, which is cool.
I don’t use the app