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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'd like to remind everyone that "bee kind" includes not accepting, normalizing, and ignoring transphobic opinions and beliefs. We're all together in this.

I'd like to remind you that you don't get to redefine words.

Having said that, I spent many hours having reasoned talks with *phobes and getting then to slowly see some light somewhere. Even if it's a glimmer, I think that's worth it. You don't get to tell me that I should yell at those people.

[–] ted@beehaw.org 28 points 1 year ago

Inaction against intolerance is a form of action, is it not? "Bee kind" is not just a call to not be mean, it's a call to act in kindness.

I believe the poster is probably right in that it stirs more toward fostering acceptance rather than simply ignoring hate.

It's not compelled speech, per se—Beehaw users need to have an active role in order to make it the kind of place people want to bee.

[–] Kirkkh@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t take a broad appeal for decency as a personal attack against you.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't notice any attack against me. I was just commenting on that I don't think that aggression against -lets call them- consevatives, neo-Nazi's, right wingers, whatver, works or is wanted

[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was just commenting on that I don’t think that aggression against -lets call them- consevatives, neo-Nazi’s, right wingers, whatver, works or is wanted

I've been nice to them and trying to politely educate them for over 20 years now, since W was in office. I've convinced a grand total of 2, and in the meantime, 30 million worse ones have arisen.

Fuck them. I'm done assuming they only hate me because they're uneducated. They hate me because they get off on hate, and all the education in the fucking world doesn't matter to them. So I treat them like scum, and their arguments like jokes, because they are.

Don't like it? Too bad. Cry more, salty.

[–] gnufudgecc@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

The internet is expanding everyday. You and I are likely to stumble upon people from different regions and backgrounds, who some have no clue who liberals or conservatives are, but share great amount of that *phobia due to their upbringing and religion.

My guess is that the "fuck them" attitude is even more useless towards them. They're not crying at all because they don't even interact with people they despise.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you give up on the world then don't cry when the world gives up on you and i you become more hostile to them, they will get more hostile to you.

You don't want things to become better, you just want revenge for whatever slights they did you

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You don’t want things to become better, you just want revenge for whatever slights they did you

personally i think "murdering or wanting to murder queer people for being queer" is more than a "slight" and is fine to answer with "revenge". this sort of placation has never worked for any oppressed group in history—it's certainly not about to work for queer people—and you should probably not be here if people calling that placation out for what it is makes you like this.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve been nice to them and trying to politely educate them for over 20 years now, since W was in office. I’ve convinced a grand total of 2, and in the meantime, 30 million worse ones have arisen.

holy shit are you me?

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 19 points 1 year ago

I’d like to remind you that you don’t get to redefine words.

Yeah I don't think that's what happened and definitely didn't read it that way in the post.

[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is how we take the conversation back. Good on ya!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. It's not least appreciated I guess, looking at other comments.