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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Completely meaningless given that NATO requires unanimous agreement by all the existing members. Everybody knows that this will never happen, so basically what he's saying is that he'll cling on to power.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

so basically what he’s saying is that he’ll cling on to power.

I find this to be a disingenuous framing. He clearly made that comment in service to the greater good of Ukraine, and I don't know how being the leader of a nation facing imperial domination and constant war and death is something anyone would want to 'cling' to other than out of a sense of duty to the people he is representing.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago

If he gave a shit about the Ukraine he would've signed the Istanbul agreements two weeks into the war. This scumbag is responsible for destroying the country at the behest of the west. Meanwhile, Ukraine has been under imperial domination since 2014 when the legitimate government was overthrown there. Zelensky also isn't representing anybody because he cancelled elections. The fact that there are still people who try to frame him as some here is absolutely surreal.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The more important part of his statement is "for peace".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He had plenty of opportunities to achieve piece starting with implementing Minsk agreements before the war started, signing the agreement in Istanbul two weeks into the war, and numerous other opportunities after. Each time he rejected peace and continued facilitating the destruction of Ukraine.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

just pointing out that NATO is not going to happen. Stepping down offer is mainly for peace by someone else.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca -5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If this really will never happen, Putin should promise the same, and see what happens. :)