https://sh.itjust.works/post/31716642
Edit: There used to be a screenshot here. I messed up the link in an edit and don't have a local copy saved.
My comment was roughly 'It already looks like it might be better than things now, at least Biden never advocated for full displacement of all Palestine."
I had already seen half the comment section of the post with ban marks. This single comment copped me a fully-expected permaban. Unfortunately my comment doesn't show up in modlogs so I had to retype it more or less from memory.
The bloodshed:
Screenshot edited as per mod request.
Most of the banned comments are actually still visible. If you browse the thread you'll notice there's nothing particularly inflammatory or banworthy about any of them.
Best part, in the middle of all that banning, our buddy found the time to mod the one guy in that post who supported his opinions. Welp, another echo chamber in the making.
Follow up:
The mod posted in a similar post in this comm. FWIW, while I stand by my actions and opinion, I did msg them to offer them a personal apology.
YDI, but for very specific reasons and I understand your perspective.
In a vacuum, your comments are 100% fine, OP. However, in the context of those communities, comments like yours dominate the discussion and drown out other perspectives. It’s exhausting and disrespectful to constantly redirect conversations about significant figures involved in tragic events—like the murder of family and friends—back to team sports-style politics.
Let people express their anger at Biden. You’re not addressing the harm he’s done by derailing critical conversations about him. If you want to criticize Netanyahu or Trump, make your own original posts. (If those posts also get banned, I’ll gladly revisit my position.)
I should point out that the title of the post is "Flattening Gaza is one of Biden's accomplishments". You can hardly write a title like that and expect politics to not get involved. Is there even any discussion to be had that's NOT team sports-style politics?
It is trivial to to allow for anger against both parties while simultaneously conceding that there are different qualities of culpability involved.
Put another way—and I don’t mean to be flippant I am just communicating the emotional substrate you chose to engage with here, you did this meme:
Again, you are 100% in the right. But you are making these comments in a way that minimizes another 100% valid conversation that people need to have.
If you'll read those comments, including mine, nobody was actually defending Biden. They were mostly pointing out that Trump is about to (and already) making things worse.
What exactly is the valid conversation that needs having? The mod had also expressed that no other parties, not even Netanyahu or the IDF, carry more blame than Biden. You're essentially saying that we should ignore all disinformation because some people are upset. Seems like a pretty good excuse for any troll or bad actor to hide behind, TBH.
…In a very dehumanizing and dismissive way. Again, create your own post next time. See how it goes. If anyone actually gets banned for posting about Netanyahu or Trump being culpable, I will take everything back. Given the evidence I have, however, it really just looks like there was a dogpile of people derailing the conversation from rightly criticizing someone who absolutely has blood on his hands.
Could you quote this? I believe you just want to see the original text. If there is actual disinformation I will take everything back for sure.
Want to know something funny? The mod has expressed the exact same opinion themselves. That they're now banning others saying the exact same thing they did is purely emotional. Any opinion that doesn't 100% align with how they feel on a particular day is a bannable offense.
I see resin85 accusing the mod of what you are describing, but the mod's response appears to reflect a fair personal opinion that doesn't align with your accusations.
The mod's statement is balanced and reasonable. It doesn’t support your claim that “The mod had also expressed that no other parties, not even Netanyahu or the IDF, carry more blame than Biden.” The mod is simply pointing out that Biden isn’t blameless, which is not the same thing.
At this point, my YDI judgment still stands unless further evidence is provided. It seems like this community might not be the right fit for you.
Screenshot 2 was pointing out that the mod has said the exact same thing he's banning others for, not about Netanyahu et al.
Screenshot 1 doesn't make it clear enough that he's blaming Biden as the primary party over everyone else involved in the debacle? I have an autistic streak and even I can tell that much.
That's fine. You've apparently decided it's right for them to be an echo chamber because they're emotional, and anybody who disagrees deserves to be kicked out. I'm not sure how that logic can't be extended to pretty much every PTB in existence, but ok. My goal here wasn't asking for judgement, but just drawing attention to the nonsense that's happening over there.
Ah okay I am badly misunderstanding that whole second half of your comment then, my apologies. I still don’t understand it but that’s on me.
Nope. And your “autistic streak” comment is demeaning and unnecessary.
You are doing a very clear and intentional misreading. Mod said “the known serial killer was given a gun, he would not have been able to kill if it weren’t for the man who gave him a gun” and you are doing the disservice of interpretating all sorts of terms like “primary party” “over everyone else” and “Biden carries more blame” that were NOT in play. You’re the one doing disinformation here and I would absolutely ban you for manipulating my words like that.
Anyway you seemed chill at first but the more evidence I see I’m just glad you don’t run your own community. If that one is an echo chamber, one run by your standards of “disinformation” would become one even faster. ;)
I apologise if I offended you. I was mainly talking about myself but I can see how it could be misconstrued otherwise.
We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I think the way he's replying is obvious enough, but it's not like I can ask the guy for clarification since, you know, hair trigger ban.
Anyway, I think I'm starting to get frustrated with the communication difficulties and it's making me more cutting than I'd like, so I think we should just call it here. No hard feelings regardless.
likewise!
Yes actually, Palestinians are allowed to be angry about Biden levelling their country without having to care about US sportsteam politics