I wonder what the ADL would think if people started openly doing Nazi salutes now around Jewish communities. This is setting terrible precedent for their own people. But I guess this works to their favor, make a hostile environment to Jewish people in the US so that more of them emigrate to Israel. But still... what the fuck. The Jewish people will never again be taken seriously as crusaders against genocide and fascism. Growing up in a Jewish community this feels insane for me to see.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder what the ADL would think if people started openly doing Nazi salutes now around Jewish communities.

The Jewish people will never again be taken seriously as crusaders against genocide and fascism.

The ADL represents the Jewish people in the same way that Focus on the Family represents the Christian people.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I still live in this Jewish community I grew up in. ADL or not the majority of these people are fanatical about supporting Israel, so if supporting an open neo-Nazi is expedient to their cause they will not think twice about it. They don't care if they burn down the US in the process so long as they get what they want.

[–] ewo@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

They're the bad ones then mate. I'm part-Jewish, been to Israel a couple of times all over the country, it's horrifying to see the genocide that's going on and at this point it's basically an ethnostate/apartheid. Jews have a right to exist peacefully after WW2 but this ain't it Chief!

Hopefully the younger generations can break this cycle of hate and violence.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Just to be clear, I don't hate my neighbors. They were my friends and mentors growing up. I'm just really disappointed with the community considering the values I was instilled by the Jewish community as an adolescent, these are not the values I was taught by my Jewish teachers. There doesn't seem to be a healthy way forward at the moment, people are gripped by hysteria.

[–] ewo@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 days ago

Hard agree, there's some blind love for Israel, people haven't quite figured out that Netanyahu is a facist and that as usual, violence only begets violence. I don't see anything good happening for them soon, or any countries in the middle-east that do the same.

[+] Neon@lemmy.world -14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The Jewish people

okay, so when Hamas launches a terror attack it's "not all muslims" but as soon it's about jews it's "the jewish people" as a whole.

Curious.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Read the whole sentence you Muppet, it's about public perception that Jewish people will have as a community and what will happen to their brand. During my lifetime at least, the Jewish people were always seen as the representative voice on matters of genocide and authoritarian regimes. And Im sure, as you know, this is a tremendous part of the Jewish identity as well. There is going to be a tremendous erosion of the stewardship that Jewish people claim to hold when it comes to matters of this subject. Is my point.

I'm not homogenegizing their beliefs and opinions as individuals. Also, considering this is domestic American politics Hamas is not pertinent to the conversation.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

"YEah, bUT WhAT aBoUT HUmuS???!!"