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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Read beyond that point. The West distorts the scope and nature of the credit system to ludicrous degrees, nobody claims that there’s no such thing.

[–] spencerwi@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

As I responded to you elsewhere, I did read beyond that point. Are you sure that you did?

I read the whole article, as it went on to describe more of what has been reported as having a “social credit score”, and gave more details about how it’s administered.

Basically, the headline is “no, it’s not at all what you’ve heard”, and then the article goes on to describe exactly what has been reported in the US. I’m not sure your point about “there’s no credit score that is administered by the Chinese government with a mechanism for blacklisting you and restricting you everywhere” is well-supported by an article that describes a credit score that is administered by the Chinese government that operates blacklists that are enforced under the slogan “whoever violates the rules somewhere shall be restricted everywhere.”

If that’s not actually how it works, then you need to provide a credible source that proves that’s not how it works. Providing a source that reports that yes, that’s exactly how it works doesn’t serve your argument. And “well but the West is totally lying, maaan” isn’t proof; it’s an unverified claim by a random internet commenter.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago

So which part of this do you think is the part that addresses the clear and salient arguments you're arguing against?

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 0 points 2 weeks ago

I literally live in China. The scores apply to businessmen and not the average citizen. China isn't North Sentinel Island, you can literally come here.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

No, it does not describe "exactly as what the western media depicted." The west reported utterly nonsense and unfounded ideas of facial recognition and tracking, among other ludicrous ideas out of a necessity to sensationalize.