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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Sure bud it's all the women's fault.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

There's two different ways to read the previous poster's point:

  • That any kind of quotas system (no mater whose "born with certain genetic traits" group it favours) is generally bad and causes more problem than it solves. From what I've observed in my one and only time working in a place with such quotas, that's what I saw, with both very incompetent people from the favored group who clearly only got the job due to quotas and at the same time with competent members of that group having trouble being taken seriously because they were assumed to be incompetent and having only got the position due to having the genetics that made them be a member of said favored group (they were de facto seen as second class), so in general I would agree that priviledging in hiring anybody due to the genetics they were born with is wrong (not to be confused with systems that try and make sure nobody is discriminated against due to the genetics they were born with, systems I totally agree with: basically I disagree with people being given different treatment when it comes to selection for a professinal occupation due their genetics).
  • That women and non-straight men are a problem in that profession. If that's the take, I not only totally disagree with it but find it apalling and unnacceptable. Again, experience tells me that in IT women and non-straight men are neither less nor more competent than straight men: from what I've observed gender and sexual orientation are, as expected, entirelly irrelevant when it comes to professional competent in that domain. One needs to have no clue whatsoever about that domain and be an abnormal simpleton to think gender or sexual orientation is what makes somebody a good or bad professional in any of the various areas of the Industry.
[–] ngn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

idk how someone can read it the second way

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Some people genuinely have huge assumptions about the intellectual capability of women and/or their suitability for certain occupations: for example, the "women are very emotional" used as excuse for not giving them certain responsibilities such as management positions, is far too common, especially in countries were the main brand of sexism is the so-called "Benevolent Sexism" (called that not because it's actually good but because it's disguised as being for the protection of women) such as Britain.

Similarly there are prejudices about people with sexual orientations other than heterosexuality in the workplace, usually of the "they'll make other people uncomfortable" kind.

Sadly, still today, far too many people genuinely think along such lines and some aren't even aware that they're doing it because their whole lives they've lived around people who do it so for them "it's how everybody thinks" and the "normal" way of thinking.

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