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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

what if the answer is that hamas and israel are assholes?

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

What if you put your thumb all the way in your butthole and sang National Anthem by Lana del Rey? πŸ€”

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is true, but hamas has a far better reason to be an asshole. If I were in their situation, I wouldn't be the most agreeable person either. My hope is that if their impending doom is eliminated, their more problematic behavior would go with it.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

That is true, but hamas has a far better reason to be an asshole

what, that the land that was pinkie promised to them by the british if they betrayed the ottomans were given to someone else? fuck off.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Equal condemnation for unequal sin minimizes the greater and exaggerates the lesser. That ceases to be an answer and becomes a cover for genocidal fascists against a national liberation movement.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah no. What the fuck do you think the palestinian armed forces/whatever will do if anyone gives them the same weapons as israel? The exact fucking thing israel is doing to them, maybe worse.

Fuck them both. They're squatting on land that they got kicked out of by empires, and established there by empires. Fuck them.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, this is just chavuanism. Israel is genocidal because it is founded on settler-colonialism, it isn't an intrinsic racial issue.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Close your eyes and pretend hamas has the US's arsenal. What happens in the next few months or so?

A ceasefire gets signed overnight and we have a two state solution and the tens of thousands of illegal settlers in the west bank take their ass home

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why bother engaging in impossible hypotheticals?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You're saying Israel is genocidal but hamas isn't. They simply don't have the means. Yes, Israel is the bad guy, but by their decades of settler colonialism have cultivated a group literally dedicated to their eradication. Fighting a bad guy doesn't automatically make you a good guy. They're just less awful by comparison.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

You’re saying Israel is genocidal but hamas isn’t.

Yes, because Israel is committing genocide and Hamas is not. The things that happen in westerners rascist imagining do not have any bearing on actual factual reality

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

National liberation against settler-colonial genocide is a good thing.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hamas might be genocidal.
Israel is genocidal.

I'm not gonna go so far as to say Hamas are good guys, but treat people according to what they have done and not what they may do. They're not currently on the same level.